[Rutles4Ever]

RNC die-hards are a whole lot like Grace slick at Woodstock: they're generally tripping out of their minds on some damned thing or another, and their babblings are all 110% gibberish. ;)

FWIW, this is the predictable outcome of an election like this. The need for a scapegoat overrides any intellectual honesty among people like Frum. On the other side of the aisle, they are spinning furiously to blame the Prop 8 defeat not on the black vote, but "religious-types". On our side of the aisle - guess what - it's the "religious-types" who are getting blamed for the GOP platform not appealing to enough voters. You could almost - ALMOST - hear Frum utter the words "clingy" and "bitter".

So, in my opinion, if we're going to go to war with the GOP establishment, we need to do it now, while there's time to rebuild the foundation for 2012. A split party won't do anything but get Obama re-elected. If Frum and company are going to try and throw us overboard, better we do it to them first. Take no prisoners.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

So, in my opinion, if we're going to go to war with the GOP establishment, we need to do it now, while there's time to rebuild the foundation for 2012.

There's not a single, solitary aspect of anything you just wrote with which I could conceivably disagree.

You're right, and righter than right.

[B Knotts]

Well said. One side or the other is going down. Better them than us.