Posted on 11/06/2008 5:26:15 PM PST by savvyguy
I am not educated enough to know how it was done but the timing of the meltdown was beyond coincidence. I also am catching a faint whiff of George Soros.
Easy, McCain
You think I'm not on the conservatives side because I choose to deal with reality?
You just sound nuts.
LOL!
My! My!
Let’s be outraged by how they treated poor Sarah, and not look at what we are really facing...
Ctrl-Alt-Delete....Gee, so simple. Whyy didn’t I think of that?
Let’s go through this again:
1) 2006 was not about anything but a combination of corrupt GOP officials all arriving at exactly the same time, a few months before the election. There were suspicions of orchestration, but regardless of that, the point is . . . There Was No Justification For Policy Change And No Evidence Of An Ideology Change In The Electorate.
2) Ronald Reagan could not have won against Obama this year, and it had nothing to do with ANY policy at all. Ronald Reagan could have loudly espoused his core philosophies and he would have lost by about the same count because The Electorate Will Not Tolerate Loss Of About Half The Nation’s Net Worth In Just 45 Days Before The Election. The people vote their pocket book. It doesn’t matter who is in front of the mic. JoAnne the Waitress gets her news in bursts from the TV and all she saw was the relentless pounding on her and her mom’s 401K.
3) There is no need to flail about gnashing teeth about rightward or leftward. Policy is NOT RELEVANT. If you want to save the GOP or conservatism, devote your energies to ensuring that the market crashes were indeed random, rather than yet again occurring at such a bad time for the GOP.
OK. I’m nuts.
I choose not to wallow in pity, but deal with reality.
I think we lost because Obama and the MSM cheated. Period. I hope someone will investigate Obama’s donations and not let it just slide. Even his own aunt was contributing illegally. He knew it and got away with it. Qaddafi claimed to be sending money to get O elected. And we don’t know to what extent Acorn affected the election. Then, of course, with the MSM campaigning on behalf of Obama and refusing to expose him, all the while on a mission to destroy Sarah Palin. If this had been a fair election, low Bush approval ratings and tanked market or not, McCain/Palin would have won.
That’s my point.
I believe that Mccain sealed his fate when he suspended his campaign and signed the $700B + bailout. Over 75% of americans did not support it. He blew it right then and there. Obama signed it but that was expected of him since his liberal dna could not do otherwise.
Maccain brought a knife to the fight and Obama borught an M16.
Could have nailed his liberal arse with associating the pathetic liberal congress to obama. nothing . Nada. If anything it is shocking so many people voted for him in the first place!
It’s simpler than this- we were faced with the choice of two democrats.
it’s as simple as that. The ONLY reason I voted at all was because Palin was on the tiket.
WHEN THE HELL ARE THEY GOING TO LEARN????
Reagan:Conservative- wins in 2 landslides
Gingrich: conservative - WINS CONGRESS for the firs timein 40 years
Palin: Conservative- the ONLY reason McCain was even IN the race.
GET A CLUE
And now we get REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST Ms. Hoover someone saying young Republicans ‘get it’ about embracing abortion and gay rights, so we will win in the future.
DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT
I hope we can recover from Socialism of Obama
And yet if you take away from zer0’s electoral total the states where he won by 52% or less, he gets down to about 278 votes. A relatively small shift would have made it a much closer race. I think it was winnable, but just too difficult to pull off.
Conservatives win, that’s true!
For what it’s worth, I think that the media started their campaign to have Obama elected way back when they intensified their demonization of President Bush.
After they had completely destroyed President Bush they passed the baton to Obama, who then proceeded to link McCain to Bush in almost every other sentence.
The Republican ticket didn’t stand a chance.
I agree completely. Not defining the financial crisis as the fault of democrats was the nail in McCain’s coffin.
I believe he is simply old and wanted to run the campaign he would’ve run in 2000. As a maverick reformer running against washington. That is why he picked Sarah. That’s why he spent so much time talking about earmarks. Thats why he talked so much about bipartisanship.
Ultimately he understood little if anything about the economy, and couldn’t create an effective economic message. He was also so infected with democratic thinking, he accepted almost all of their assumptions as fact.
47% considering how badly run his campaign was is amazing. It’s a good base to build off considering how bad this year was for Republicans.
What Lost the Election? Vote for Bail Out.
Best McCain move? Choice of Palin
Worst McCain move? Bashing Bush not Congress
In Florida he lost virtually every Cuban vote with which he would have won.
“Worst campaign and worst candidate on the pubbie side I’ve ever seen.....”
Please.
Once the campaign got on message with the tax and spend issue I thought the Captain put up one hell of a fight.
Something must be done about the slavish media coverage that the other side enjoys rather than just complaining about it. It is not a fair fight when one side is portrayed as avatars of a new age of peace and universal brotherhood and the other side is portrayed as yahoos and racists.
The backstabbing and blame game has begun but to paraphrase James Carville “its the media stupid”. The Obama campaign spent 600M but probably got 1B worth free publicity from the shamelessly slanted MSM coverage.
A counter strategy involves a total rethink on how to alternative Conservative to counter this bias. When the Republicans were in complete control of Congress nothing was done to permanently eliminate the possibility of eliminating the revival of the Fairness Doctrine. Nothing was to de-fund the left-wing groups that feed at the Federal trough including Accorn.
The key to managing a political coalition is to reward friends and punish enemies. We will spend the next fours learning this lesson.
“Yes..Ron Paul could of won had we gotten behind him”
You have really got me laughing. Paul Spent nearly 35 Million for what? 20, 000 votes Nation wide. It would of been better if that 35 Million would of been spent on the McCain/Palin ticket. The GOP ticket was running short during the last weeks, while Obama had millions pooring in.
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