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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Why in the world would a gang member join the Army? (Not to say it’s not happening,I just don’t get the concept of a gang member joining the military)


14 posted on 11/06/2008 7:59:57 AM PST by lynny
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To: lynny

Training - hand to hand combat - tactics.


17 posted on 11/06/2008 8:01:35 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tagline scrubbed to prevent invitation to indoctrinization camp)
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To: lynny

Son served overseas. Some bases were notorious for their gang activity.

sigh..........the officer corps is filled with the dregs left behind after bubba promoted by race and gender.


20 posted on 11/06/2008 8:10:09 AM PST by Carley (Vote McCain/Palin.....Change babies can live with.)
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To: lynny; SW6906

I know a Marine MP and he has said that gang-bangers join the Marines to learn how to be better killers when they get out.


22 posted on 11/06/2008 8:24:49 AM PST by namsman
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To: lynny
Why in the world would a gang member join the Army? (Not to say it’s not happening,I just don’t get the concept of a gang member joining the military)

You get lots of training, plus access to lots of "stuff" that has incredible value on the street. (What would be the street value of a crate of full-auto M-4's?)

30 posted on 11/06/2008 9:05:08 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: lynny

“Why in the world would a gang member join the Army? (Not to say it’s not happening,I just don’t get the concept of a gang member joining the military)”

They want to learn how to fight and handle weapons more effectively so when they get back to their gang bangin’ they will be the best they can be!


34 posted on 11/06/2008 9:15:01 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: lynny
Why in the world would a gang member join the Army?

Some gang members are joining the military, particularly Army and Marine infantry, in order to get real, live combat training. It gives them "street cred", as well as a genuine tactical advantage, when the get out and return home to their gang.

35 posted on 11/06/2008 9:15:33 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: lynny

Access to and ability to steal weapons and ammunition.


49 posted on 11/06/2008 11:24:46 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: lynny

They get free weapons training and lots of good tactical information... and get paid to learn it all!


52 posted on 11/06/2008 11:26:53 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: lynny
Why in the world would a gang member join the Army?

To get weapons training and combat experience.

Now ask yourself why they would do that.

L

60 posted on 11/06/2008 1:24:32 PM PST by Lurker (Thank you Governor Palin. It's not your fault. You got shackled to the worst Pub since Ford.)
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To: lynny
Free training. Not only is it free but with pay. Then they go back from whence they came and teach what they have subsequently learned to their fellow members. One gang member in the armed forces killed 2 police officers and pinned down a 3rd, the police weren't taught with those highly advanced tactics in mind. The 4th officer who arrived was finally able to take control of the situation.

Also it is out of necessity, the necessity of being the best disciplined gang with the most advanced tactics for regional domination when warring with other gangs. For instance in the following video, a gang member in the military was able to send back vital information for fire placement, and the construction of an effective ambush for rival gang members.

Watch this for more in depth information.

65 posted on 11/06/2008 7:51:33 PM PST by Xenophon450 ( The stain of freedom, he's washed it out... whoÂ’s rocking the cradle? I have no doubt...)
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To: lynny
Also I may add, the lower tier Gang membership, those on the street who are the raw recruits have no real idea what it's like at the higher tier of those who are essentially married to the gang itself. They see it as a escape from a normal job and and having to answer to a boss.

Those who advance up to the upper tier (which is generally found within maximum security holding facilities) see a veil lifted. They soon find out, when inducted that they shall serve a boss, but... he will be even more tyrannical and apathetic to their conditions than a real boss of a corporation or a drill sergeant could hope to envision. There will be no tolerance of mistakes, if you fail, you will be squashed, like cockroach. Failure to kill friends, or sell drugs to children will incur immediate termination, but there will be no severance pay.

In reality the Army or any other Armed force fits quite well with higher tier gang lifestyle. It is extremely regimented and you receive orders daily. Gerald Rubalcaba is a Ex-Marine, which I think you may use ex here very aptly. He is one of the leading members of the Prison gang, La Nuestra Familia. Many prison gangs have a reading list for those who wish to advance, they must read and master works by Mao, Machiavelli and a whole gamut of others. It is this elite Gang Echelon who encourage military enlistment, they know it will enhance the lethality of this organization (or as it is called in NF, "the O").

Those in the prison send out orders much like those in Washington send out orders to those commanders on the field. Also much like those in Washington, they have unrealistic expectations and really haven't a clue as to those who are actually on the ground.

Mind you I am not comparing soldiers of class and character to thugs, I am just bestowing some understanding with this analogy.

The Armed forces are plagued by these self serving parasites, however more is being done to deal with this malady. None of this in anyway diminishes the accomplishments of those serving honorably. Once again, this is simply for illumination on this matter.

67 posted on 11/06/2008 8:25:02 PM PST by Xenophon450 ( The stain of freedom, he's washed it out... whoÂ’s rocking the cradle? I have no doubt...)
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To: lynny

They do try to get in. At basic training they are checked for tattoos. If they find any gang related markings they’re gone—out, no gos.


69 posted on 11/07/2008 10:08:39 AM PST by Proud Legions
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