Notes from the collapse ( of the Republican turnout )

Hot Air ^ | November 5, 2008 10:35 am | Ed Morrissey

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

This morning, after having absorbed the substantial victory of Barack Obama, I noticed a couple of interesting items in the data.  Barack Obama certainly won this race, but he won it with just a little more votes than George Bush won in his re-election bid, and the turnout models came up short.

In 2004, Bush beat John Kerry by winning 62.04 million votes.  In 2008, Obama won 62.443 million, a gain of only 400,000. In 2004, Kerry garnered 59.028 million votes; John McCain only got 55.386 million.   That means this election saw 3.24 million fewer votes than four years ago.  Far from being more energized, the nation appeared to be more apathetic.

[Paved Paradise]

Thankfully my “college kid” is 31 and a staunch conservative. Poor guy told me he actually cried when the “Kenyan” won (I have vowed never to utter his name - hope I don’t slip). My other name for him is Affirmative Action A———.

I am back at college after years away and, frankly, I was pretty sure the country was going to go for the Kenyan from what I saw on campus. Of course, they are clueless. They were all yapping about how the Kenyan is going to give them all $4K to go to college, etc. Of course, also, don’t forget they will never have to worry about filling their gastanks, or buying a home, or health care either.

[cherry]

okay.....this was gamesmanship nothing more .....

we've been told for TWO years about hussein.....

the pitiful public has been told that it was going to be a landslide for a year....

that he had tons of support from lots of voters and they all had donated money, and blah, blah, blah.....

it was gamesmanship....

a psychological war and they won....

I'm not saying that some people weren't apathetic simply because of McCain....but think of the millions that were ecstatic about Sarah.....

maybe some of those listing themselves as Pubs were really not Pubs at all....

[singfreedom]

Bookmark!

[singfreedom]

I hope they enjoy the reign of their new affirmative action President. I just hope there is enough of a country left that we get to have an election in four years.

After the stock market REALLY crashes when the government withdraws everyone’s 401k investments from the market, we will truly be “on an equal footing” with the failed economies of Europe. I just hope the “good conservatives” think it was worth it. I can't wait ‘til we bring back the “misery index”!

[singfreedom]

Are they figuring in the hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes cast all over the country? I wonder what the statistics are on that?

Sure, ACORN can claim they were “just registrations”, but there were other groups such as “Vote From Home” that made it their mission to vote fraudulently and no charges were even filed!

[singfreedom]

On the face of it, Mr. Sobran sounds prophetic, but he is wrong. God, in his infinite grace, does NOT give us candidates. WE GIVE OURSELVES CANDIDATES. We need to get involved in the process so we have a say in the process of choosing candidates. Participation is everything.

[dforest]

Turnout is proof that to ever so smart elites were full of BS. Buh bye RINO losers.

Lets go out and get rid of all of them!

[dforest]

Did you know there was less of a youth vote this time than there was for Kerry?

[singfreedom]

My family is dispirited and worried. My youngest nephew, the baby of the family, is a Ranger. My little sister, his Mom, cries inconsolably.

I can’t believe someone would need to explain to these mental defectives that “CHANGE” can go good or bad, with a 50/50 chance either way. “Race” is absolutely the thinnest “political issue” ever devised!

[singfreedom]

........just as my Father did with me. I found out EXACTLY how the “cow ate the cabbage”. Nope, Dad didn’t suffer idiots lightly.

[singfreedom]

Agree. I have always wondered what portion of “overspending” was attributable to additional security measures necessary after 9/11? The costs of damage support after a record number of serious hurricanes had to be huge. The military cost of two wars has to add some hefty numbers to the mix as well. I’m certain there were other expenses that I have neglected to mention. Just what part of “overspending” was in fact related to things beyond the President’s control?

[SunkenCiv]

:') All of it. Y'know, because the budget comes out of Congress, and as the old saying goes, the President Proposes, the Congress Disposes. Also, every cent of the debt will be gone in 30 years. Being 50 now, I also remember how the deficits (and the overall budget) shot up in the mid- to late-1960s; President Nixon asked Congress (or maybe it was the CBO), not "how much do you plan to spend" but "how much do you plan to overspend". And one of "his" budgets showed a small surplus, which was the first in a long, long time, and the last until the short-lived surpluses during the Clinton administration.

Those Clinton surpluses were made possible by the Reagan-Bush deficits, which were used in part to destroy the USSR and which event made military budget cuts plausible. The world crude price fell out of bed after the Gulf War, which juiced the economy.

And what do I hear from the idiots I know? That before Bush, the gov't was out of debt. What a bunch of a-holes. They should be required to have bumperstickers (not necessarily on their cars), "I'm an a-hole and I vote".

The major failure of the Bush administration was to not ram through legislation for ubiquitous drilling when the Pubbies held both houses. That opportunity will NEVER come again, since there will NEVER AGAIN be a time when we live in a pluralistic political system.

Or maybe I'm just a great big pessimist.

There's a very great probability that the price of crude will return to $100 a barrel by this time next year; also, the retail price of gasoline (and maybe diesel) will rise regardless, because the Sock Puppet will sign whatever tax increases the Congress sends to his desk, and one of those will no doubt be a big increase in gasoline excise.

Midterm elections will be very, very good. Assuming, that is, we don't lose the ability to campaign because anything not supporting the Demwit party will be reclassified as "hate speech", and the "fairness doctrine" will push all other points of view offline and offair.

It's worth remembering that in 1801, when Jefferson became president, the US national debt was around $100 million, about 10 times annual federal revenues. This was literally "the cost of freedom," and would correspond today to a national debt around $30 trillion. Since our actual national debt is $13+ trillion, the government is in better financial shape today than it was in Jefferson's time. And at the time, Jefferson's number one priority was paying down the national debt. So, how did he do it? How does ANY wise government ever increase its revenues? Yes, that's right! JEFFERSON REDUCED GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND CUT TAXES.-- BroJoeK

[singfreedom]

I chose the overspending issue because it is one of the ones I hear most often and it is, probably, the most dubious. We could have done a lot worse-—and I've seen us do it this election cycle.

As to the pluralistic “thing”, I'm not ready to give up yet. I thought it might be over when we elected Carter (the original dimwitted socialist, after FDR, of course) and the “misery index” was our daily traveling companion. I am significantly older than you. I have seen times when I thought we were done, and I was getting ready for that fork, but we managed to pull it out of the fire just in time. It may be tougher this time, but I think we can do it.

I totally agree on the “drilling”. I'm afraid we have lost our opportunity, perhaps forever, to insure inexpensive, domestically produced, realistic, energy for our country. The Demwits will instead insist on expending tax dollars, looking for a pie-in-the-sky energy solution, while we pump TRILLIONS of dollars into the Middle East. If we do make headway in the mid-terms, energy better be the first thing addressed. Believe me, it is the many-headed hydra breathing down our neck!

[BrianE]

So I guess nominating a RINO was pretty stupid after all. We tried Dole, we tried McCain...can we go back to conservatives now?

I was listening to Moderate Medved today & he claimed that Center Pubs had more success this year than Conservatives, but one thing about Michael is he does not like Conservatives, he beats them down.

[BrianE]

Agreed, i’m hearing now that maybe Huckleberry would have been the better candidate.

Dr. Savage said today that some had barked that nObama had no experience, so what do the Pubs do? put Sarah (God bless her) out there w/ no experience also, that may have been a excuse to go for the Messiah.

[BrianE]

Quote: Amazing, isn’t it? If 60-80% consider themselves conservative, then the only reason they would be voting for the Dems would be for welfare programs. Many of them have family in the military, and the Dems are not kind to the military, so I can’t imagine that would be a big reason for their support of the Dems.

Ditto! My wife works at our county job center, you would not believe the long line of blacks & hispanics day in & day out! do you know if you are illegal you can & are gauranteed to receive free medical, food stamps, free childcare, free baby delivery, etc. etc.

This county is strictly Dem, you do not win a mayoral election in our town unless you are a Dimwit!

[BrianE]

Blacks? maybe not, it was Hispanics who most likely voted on the propostion, for example my wife said in her native Colombia being gay could get you killed.

[BrianE]

Quote: Rather than take the time to look into who was really responsible (Clinton, Democrats), instead many voters just voted against Republicans and President Bush.

That they did, i heard a fire chief on the day of the elections say “we need to get our boys out of Iraq, O will win every state”

Quote: The stupid thing about it of course is that those who voted for a change because of these banks and market collapses instead voted in the source of the problems. They basically rewarded the bad ones who caused the problems with more power.

REMEMBER everyone gets their info from the HELLivision, how can they then make an intelligent decision? never!

[BrianE]

Agreed, notice how he never had a meesage? nObama kept barking tax cuts & that McPain would tax your health benefits & it worked to fine precision & what did McShame say? nothing no message! Idiotic!

nObama ran the show whether we like it or not & the Sheeple fell for it along w/ the help of the MSM of course.

[BrianE]

Lol! thats 4 sure