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Conservatives, Time to Adopt Saul Alinsky Tactics
Discoverthenetworks.org ^ | April 2008 | John Perazzo

Posted on 11/05/2008 1:59:20 PM PST by samsmom

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To: wideawake

Ping for later reading


21 posted on 11/05/2008 2:13:47 PM PST by djl_sa (A happy republican now that Sarah is in the race!)
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To: samsmom

No. You don’t fight communism by becoming a communist!

They are despicable.


22 posted on 11/05/2008 2:15:07 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: sodpoodle

Send that to Fox News! Have been pleading with them to be ‘fair’ and tell the truth. If it had not been for ‘Joe, the Plummer; even the ‘S’ word; would not been uttered.


23 posted on 11/05/2008 2:15:14 PM PST by cricket (America's Freedom Rings! T hank You ~ U..S.A. Military~)
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To: Brookhaven

Expose? They have been exposed and nobody cares, we can’t cry and say “Look how mean they are” “Look how they cheat”

It doesn’t work, the ACORN coverage didn’t have one negative effect on them.

Fight fire with fire


24 posted on 11/05/2008 2:17:41 PM PST by Def Conservative (IT'S THE HISPANICS, STUPID!)
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To: Def Conservative
We should act like them and take the low road.

Have you ever spent some time on DU or Daily Kos? They're some of the most bitter and hateful people. These are the same people that use Alinsky tactics.

We have taken the high road for far too long IT DOESN’T WORK!

So we should act like the radical/socialists, the very people we loathe? I don't buy it, not by a long shot.

25 posted on 11/05/2008 2:18:14 PM PST by rochester_veteran ( http://RochesterConservative.com)
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To: samsmom

Radical Conservatives. I like the term.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 2:18:33 PM PST by Clock King (Democracy has failed completely.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Absolutely spot on!

We must **especially** take control of education!!!!!

* Government schools can’t be fixed because they are NOT broken! They are doing the job for which they were created. They are turning kids into citizens of the state and providing jobs for socialists. We must work to CLOSE DOWN every government K-12 school in the nation.

* Conservatives must start scholarship foundations that will award vouchers to students attending **CONSERVATIVE** private schools. These foundations could also award grants to CONSERVATIVE teachers will to open one room school houses and home school cooperatives. The foundations could certify the teachers, approve the curriculum, and test the students.

* Conservatives must start private sports leagues to break the monopoly of government schools on sports. It is the sports teams that attract so many of our conservative children to the government indoctrination camps.

* Re: Colleges and universities: Conservatives should pool their money so that they have group power to demand that donations to colleges and universities result in **CONSERVATIVE** curriculum and appointment of conservative professors.

* Conservatives should start summer camps that teach conservative leadership skills.

Please listen this this interview by the KGB spy. Marxism is our nation’s **most** serious threat. Schools are their biggest weapon.

http://www.bafweb.com/2007/09/26/yuri-bezmenov-les-idiots-utiles-du-socialisme/

Hopefully it is not too late. Likely it is too late.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 2:19:46 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: samsmom

Marking for later read.

I’ve been thinking, we need to know and understand his tactics and why they worked.


28 posted on 11/05/2008 2:20:56 PM PST by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: SumProVita

You are correct. The ends do not justify the means.

This is a golden opportunity for conservatism. With the libs getting at least a 2 year freehand to do what they will the chances of them really screwing things up a great. When all the freeloaders and Utopian’s realize they have been lied to, a smart conservative could rise up and make a wide sweeping change. Call it a cultural revolution that guides collective mindsets to individualist. People may start to take care of themselves when the government that promises everything fails to give them anything.

Now, we only need to find a leader that can pull that off.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 2:20:58 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: rochester_veteran
Please read post #27. It is possible to apply Alinsky principles in a moral manner.
30 posted on 11/05/2008 2:21:22 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Def Conservative
>>>I have both of Alinsky’s books.....<<<

I wouldn't be suprised if you found them on the "New Releases" stack at Barnes & Nobel.

grin!

31 posted on 11/05/2008 2:21:36 PM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: SumProVita

Yeah, I don’t see “Alinsky-tactics” as being a model for moral/conservative behavior. It’s all based on deception (lies). Not something we should embrace.


32 posted on 11/05/2008 2:22:45 PM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: Def Conservative
We have taken the high road for far too long IT DOESN’T WORK!

Exactly.

To quote from "The Untouchables": "They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the *Chicago* way!"

33 posted on 11/05/2008 2:23:20 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Ever notice that Obama supporters chant "O-Bahm-AH" while McCain/Palin supporters chant "U-S-A".)
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To: samsmom
Conservatives who feel displaced, disenfranchised need to start organizing. This is a great piece. I think we should all read "Rules for Radicals" and see how well it would work for us!

Before we doing any of this, it will help for the GOP to first get back to conservative principles. President-elect Obama might be the high-colonic the GOP needs to purge itself of Bushonomics and the neo-cons.

34 posted on 11/05/2008 2:23:29 PM PST by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: samsmom

Jay Severin on Radio Now


35 posted on 11/05/2008 2:25:27 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: Def Conservative

I agree, not wanting to change tactics is like saying we should stand in line and accept fire like the British Army did or we should still use bayonet charges because it’s more “manly”. Why should we still be using the equivalent of single shot rifles against machine guns? Tactics are like fire - it’s the use and intent that defines whether it’s a force for good or ill.


36 posted on 11/05/2008 2:25:29 PM PST by JMS
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To: samsmom

The hundreds of millions of dollars Obama raised probably had more to do with his victory than anything Alinsky thought up. If Obama had to rely on Alinsky’s strategies, he wouldn’t have gotten very far.


37 posted on 11/05/2008 2:26:25 PM PST by x
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To: Clock King

I think the point is that there are some good lessons to learn from his books. Basic tactics and organiztional principles in order make things happen for your side. No one is suggesting they become a marxists.

The days of stumbling on ‘Joe the Plumber’ to get a boost must be put in the rear view.


38 posted on 11/05/2008 2:26:46 PM PST by Doug TX
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To: samsmom

This becomes a hot topic for PoliSci 101 and a chapter in future histories of the Obammunist movement in the 2008 election.

39 posted on 11/05/2008 2:27:20 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SumProVita

We would have gotten the LA Times tape if an agry mob stormed the LA Times and smashed furniture.

It very well may have changed the election.


40 posted on 11/05/2008 2:27:28 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (A Jew voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders.)
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