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To: hellbender
I don’t think a majority want socialism

I do. They may not know that's what it's labeled, but they want it. How could they not? They've been indoctrinated for decades to want it. We've been creeping towards it since well before the Sixties. Minorities, younger voters, many women voters, and liberal white voters want it. The word may scare some of them-I'm not sure that it's very many anymore, especially in some of the demographics-but they want it. They have come to look towards government as the provider for all their needs, and the answer to all their problems. Freedom of the individual, the right to make life decisions and live or die by them? They consider that as a "lack of compassion", to make their own choices and succeed or fail, without the safety net of government to catch you when you fall. Whole generations have been educated through academia and the media to believe that no one should ever be allowed to fail. I think that at first they didn't realise that you pay for this with your liberty, and now they don't care. All liberty means to them is license, to gratify their desires now, and never pay the price.
138 posted on 11/05/2008 3:11:46 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

“I don’t think a majority want socialism”

Websters: 1. Public collective ownership or control of the basic means of production, distribution, and exchange, with the avowed aim of operating for use rather than for profit, and of assuring th\o each member of society an equitable share of goods, services and welfare benefits.
2. The doctrines, practices, etc., of those advocating this system.


142 posted on 11/05/2008 3:16:33 PM PST by Toespi
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To: mrsmel
"I don’t think a majority want socialism..."
I do. They may not know that's what it's labeled, but they want it. How could they not? They've been indoctrinated for decades to want it. We've been creeping towards it since well before the Sixties. Minorities, younger voters, many women voters, and liberal white voters want it. The word may scare some of them-I'm not sure that it's very many anymore, especially in some of the demographics-but they want it. They have come to look towards government as the provider for all their needs, and the answer to all their problems. Freedom of the individual, the right to make life decisions and live or die by them? They consider that as a "lack of compassion", to make their own choices and succeed or fail, without the safety net of government to catch you when you fall. Whole generations have been educated through academia and the media to believe that no one should ever be allowed to fail. I think that at first they didn't realise that you pay for this with your liberty, and now they don't care. All liberty means to them is license, to gratify their desires now, and never pay the price.

You articulated that beautifully, and I agree with every word.

155 posted on 11/05/2008 3:36:38 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: mrsmel

It’s been proven several times that the national electorate will not approve a Demonrat who openly promises more taxes, as did Mondale, or plots to take over health care, as did Hillary. That’s why 0bama very skillfully portrayed himself as a centrist. He even sounded more warlike toward some foreign countries than McCain or any Republican. I mean, this guy is a masterful liar. Listening to him in the debates, the naive (which is what most sheeple are) would have thought him a reasonable, moderate, thoughtful man. The sheeple don’t listen to Rush. They don’t read FR. They watch the evening news and see everything blamed on Bush and the Pubbies, night after night, and this smooth-talking “nice clean young black man” offers to fix everything, but neither he nor his cronies in the MSM reveal his commie background and lifelong radical associations. So the dopes out there are mostly not voting for wholesale socialism. Most would claim: “I’m just voting for the best man. This stuff about him being a radical is just mud slung by the Republicans. Negative campaigning. He says he’s not a socialist, and I believe him. Anyway, I don’t want any more Bush stuff, and McCain supported Bush.”


216 posted on 11/05/2008 5:51:06 PM PST by hellbender
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