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To: Surtur

“Where is Osama?”

We couldn’t find Eric Rudolph in the woods in NC for years and you’re asking where Osama is? Do you have adequate intel to say he is positively in Afghanistan? I thought not.

As for your premise that we shouldn’t be in Iraq look at a map of the Middle East and maybe you’ll be able to figure out why we are there and in Afghanistan. Ever played Risk? Ever heard of Iran? Luckily my knowledge of geography prevented me from having to ask Bush to enumerate his reasons for being there and thus he has had my undivided support.

I hate the RINOS and have railed against them for years but facts are facts.

Bush>Gore
Bush>Kerry
McCain>Obama

Now we face Russia training with Venezuela close to our home, Iran going nuclear, it goes on and on. I would much rather have faced that reality with McCain rather than Obama and that, my FReeper FRiend, does not make me a neocon or a RINO.


132 posted on 11/05/2008 7:52:58 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: HelloooClareece
Do you have adequate intel to say he is positively in Afghanistan? I thought not.

Do you have adequate intel to say he isn't positively in Afghanistan? I thought not. See simple isn't it when you don't have an argument you just question the other guy's.

As for your premise that we shouldn’t be in Iraq look at a map of the Middle East and maybe you’ll be able to figure out why we are there and in Afghanistan. Ever played Risk? Ever heard of Iran? Luckily my knowledge of geography prevented me from having to ask Bush to enumerate his reasons for being there and thus he has had my undivided support.

Oh, I know very well where Iraq is. I still say that Bush needed to explain to all of us why we are there. Risk is a game, our actions in Iraq have real men and women coming home in body bags and with body parts missing. I have yet to see the strategic importance of Iraq, especially in light of the fact that there is no guarantee that all that has been done will last longer than it takes for the shadow of the last planeload of America soldiers to disappear. Iraq has cost billions, perhaps trillions as no one can give an exact figure for the cost, of dollars and destroyed thousands of American families for something that may be no more substantial than a fart in a hurricane.

I hate the RINOS and have railed against them for years but facts are facts.

I will accept your word on your hate for RINO's because I think we are on the same side.

Bush>Gore---->yes, barely
Bush>Kerry---->yes, barely
McCain>Obama---->yes, barely

Now we face Russia training with Venezuela close to our home, Iran going nuclear, it goes on and on. I would much rather have faced that reality with McCain rather than Obama and that, my FReeper FRiend, does not make me a neocon or a RINO.

Yes, Russia is training with Venezuela, but that's ok, because Pres. Bush looked in Putin's eyes and found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy, so according to Pres. Bush, there is no problem there. Iran is going nuclear is a problem, but what can we do other than attack them proactively. If we do that, then we are guilty of an act of war. The way to win this "War on Terror" is to establish specialized strike forces, and then work in conjuction with the governments of the countries they reside in. If we don't take that tack, then we might as well declare war on the rest of the planet, but if we do that, we will lose even though we are stronger than every other military on the planet, we are not stronger than all of the other militaries on the planet. We need to quit being the world's policeman. I would have preferred McCain also on the issue national defense, but the key word there is "defense". Bush's policies haven't been so much about defense as about "exporting democracy" which is nothing but nation building and empiricism wrapped up in a new name.

134 posted on 11/06/2008 5:30:22 AM PST by Surtur (Palin-Nugent 2012)
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