Pennsylvania, what happened? Flame Away

[PhiKapMom]

That’s good to know. I am going to start asking around later today and see what I can find out. I will contact our OK National Committee people and bet I can get them on board.

[hershey]

Will PA suffer buyers’ remorse when Obama destroys the coal industry and electricity prices go through the roof? (Well, the MSM will blame Bush of course.) People who voted for Obama did so because of greed and monumental stupidity. We’ll have more Jim Jones preaching from Obama, more lies than you can throw a stick at. And Wm. Ayres, Rev. Wright, and other Marxist pals will certainly become fixtures at the WH. We’ll see public schools graduating illiterates en masse. Then society will be expected to hand them jobs they’re not qualified to perform. Just the tip of the iceberg, folks. We’ve just ushered in the Age of Lunacy.

[WildcatClan]

LOL

[WildcatClan]

You bet we are. ;) I also live in Ky and they have their heads on pretty straight there as well. When this election is completely documented you will still see (county by county) that a large amount of the American land area is still Red.

Oklahoma has been able to keep Tulsa and OKC contained just as Ky. has kept Louisville and Lexington contained. In many of these states that went blue the larger cities create a large hill for Republican candidates to climb.

Everyone is getting down in the dumps but sans the suspicious timing of the financial crisis even McCain could have still won this election. He also thought being a Maverick was his strength when it likely is what kept quite a few republicans at home. Plus the novelty of Obama and I am sure more than few Republicans crossed over to be a part of history.

[do the dhue]

Flame away

OK ...

Did you see her dress? geesh

[truthfreedom]

McCain got creamed in South Central to South Eastern. (Well, he won, but way underperformed Bush) York, Cumberland, Dauphin, Lancaster, Lebanon, Berks, Chester. Also the Lehigh Valley and NEPA.

South Central is becoming a cultural suburb of I-95. Philly and Baltimore aren’t far away.

Here’s 2004 for South Central - to southeast
Adams 32.6% 13,764 66.9% 28,247 0.5% 217 +15K
Berks 46.4% 76,309 53.0% 87,122 0.6% 1,056 +10K
Chester 47.5% 109,708 52.0% 120,036 0.5% 1,079 +10K
Cumberl 35.8% 37,928 63.8% 67,648 0.5% 506 +30K
Dauphin 45.6% 55,299 53.9% 65,296 0.5% 613 +10K
Lancast 33.6% 74,328 65.8% 145,591 0.6% 1,359 +71K
Lebanon 32.5% 18,109 66.6% 37,089 0.8% 467 +19K
York 35.5% 63,701 63.7% 114,270 0.7% 1,298 +51K

Bush got 216K more votes than Kerry in those 8 counties.

Here’s 2008 (to this point)

Adams Obama 17,475 40% McCain 26,134 59% +9K
Berks Obama 91,803 54% McCain 75,868 45% -16K
chester O 135,150 54% M 112,266 45% -23K
cumber O 45,355 43% M 59,693 56% +14K
dauphin O 69,352 54% M 57,964 45% -12K
lanc O 97,290 43% M 124,475 56% +27K
Lebanon O 22,004 40% M 32,325 59% +10K
york O 81,748 43% M 107,367 56% +26K

McCain got 35K more votes than Obama in those 8 counties.

That’s a loss of 181K votes from 2004.

[Truthsearcher]

FL was what gave McCain the nomination, and that one is also looking blue.

[PhiKapMom]

The good thing about OKC is that it is Republican. OKC has had a Republican Mayor for years. Tulsa is more apt to go Dem. Oklahoma County is a Republican stronghold in OK.

I grew up in Ohio when we had the two Dem Senators who I never thought they would get rid of and now they are going back to those days.

I am so happy we didn’t have to worry about returning our Republican Senators!

[truthfreedom]

I should add that right now it looks like Obama won by 600k.

Kerry won by 145K.

Obama got 455K more than Kerry.

181K of those came from those 8 Philly / Baltimore exurb type counties.

274K of those came from elsewhere.

Another thing to note is how well Ron Paul did in those counties. Around 20%.

McCain was a dick to Ron Paul throughout, and never tried one bit to get votes from Ron Paul supporters.

[PhiKapMom]

NH brought him back from the ashes of his campaign which sent him on to victory in FL.

I am saying only reliable red states should be the first states to choose our candidates. If you went blue in the last election, go to the back of the pack and permanently send Iowa, NH, and Michigan to the back. I am tired of Iowa, NH, and Michigan being up at the front. Iowa caucus’ are a joke!

[nicksaunt]

I really was hoping to win because I have great fear where a man like Obama will take this country. McCain waited way too late to catch fire. A watershed moment for me was at the Wisconsin rally where that supporter shouted, " I AM MAD, I AM REALLY MAD!" McCain could have really taken advantage and shown what a fighter he was, but his response was tepid at best. He was too nice and it hurt him.

We have to regroup and fight the next fight. By the way, I don't think that anyone on this board will flame you. Keep posting, we need to keep good FReepers around. The next four years are going to be tough.

[truthfreedom]

It wouldn’t resonate in Philly. Not a coal area.
South Central is not a coal area, or really much of a heavy industrial area.

I’m surprised that Luzerne and Lackawanna went in the wrong directions - those are coal areas.

[IbJensen]

So, I was wrong and I am sorry.

You have nothing to be sorry about.

The sorry thing is now our nation that will embark on the dark, dreary road of communism and will be unfit for Christians and Jews to live in.

[truthfreedom]

And the strongest traditionally Republican areas (South Central) are seeming to take on the tendencies of the Philly burbs.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

I agree, I made the same comments in another thread. Our primaries failed us this year just as the Dem primaries failed them so many times in the past, nominating losers like Mondale, Dukakis, and Kerry.

[singfreedom]

Thankfully, yes.

I had said I wouldn't do anything this time, as McCain was not my first choice either. After I realized how awful Obama was, though, I relented. I've done some work for Inhofe, and at the little office here in Edmond.

I just hope our good conservative folks don't get too discouraged working with all those dunderheads in D.C.!

[MARTIAL MONK]

There are tremendous political pressures to keep the primaries where they are. It is not all that bad a system. It made Reagan an acceptable candidate in '80.

I would favor a rotating schedule of states, at least one from each region. We really have to be careful though, an early primary in Alabama or California might result in a candidate that is not acceptable to the rest of the country. Like you, I would look for red states but I differ on how red and on open primaries. An earlier and open primary in Nevada, for example would test how well a candidate would do in the general.

Now is the time to push for change. After this failure, the party will be more open to it and delaying it will kill it. I am putting whatever weight I have behind making the primaries serve the interest of the party and not of the current early states.

[singfreedom]

A big 10-4 on the RNC housecleaning! The “open primary” is the stuff nightmares are made of. We don't need Dems, OR the media, choosing our candidates!

Now might be a good time to start with the RNC. I imagine about now they're ripe for a “coup”.

[singfreedom]

Ah, yes, the inmates have, for sure, taken over the asylum!

[singfreedom]

God, what is that rag? Is she pregnant, or what? That is just plain ugly!