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To: TwS88; All

Yes, but the point is, the same pollsters showing an Obama win showed a McCain win in 2004.

They are oversampling Dems. But, you know what, they did in 2004 and most showed Bush ahead, NOT BEHIND.

Close, but still ahead.

The fact that not one poll has McCain ahead should be worrisome.

Not ONE.

Now, they could be oversampling it so bad this time McCain is actually ahead. But, I would not bet even a cent on that being the case.

TURNOUT IS KEY. WE MUST GET TO THE POLLS TO WIN THIS.

And we can. I am NOT here to say we will lose this.

We can and I am confident if we turn out, we WILL WIN THIS!

But, we have GOT to be realistic and stop believing pie-in-the-sky nonsense about us being only a couple points down in NJ. Come on!

We have got to be realistic that not every poll is out to get us. Even TIPP has Obama ahead.

If we can’t even get a lead in TIPP, that should be a worry!


197 posted on 11/03/2008 8:46:45 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: rwfromkansas

It would be nice to have a lead in polling, but it isn’t worrisome within itself not to have one

All of the polls are subject to oversampling Dems based on bogus voter registrations. Not anywhere near all those voter regs will try or get by with voting if they do try. Many of them used obviously phony names such as Mickey Mouse or the Dallas Cowboy players, etc.

Why would they do that? ACORN paid by the name. Workers for ACORN pulled every trick in the book to meet a quota and get paid as much as possible and not get fired. One guy was bribed and harassed into registering 17 times. The same guy, same name. Only to get them off his back did he do that. NOT so he could try to vote 17 times.

Within the polls are lacking figures on PUMAS...many of them are not answering pollsters, on purpose, or are lying to pollsters, on purpose.

Many people have said to friends, families etc that they are afraid to say they are against Obama.

So many ways the polls can be skewed to Obama, so little time and space to count them.

Now this: the undecideds are a pretty large number for this late date. The polls don’t account for the vast majority of them being for McCain, which is most likely.

Yes, some polls have Obama right at 50 per cent or slightly above. Others have him UNDER.

What’s clear as a ringing bell is that McCain’s potentlial level of support is only going to be known when the votes are counted.

McCain has the running room to win this thing.

Polls or no polls.

Leading in the polls or not...


206 posted on 11/03/2008 9:05:05 AM PST by txrangerette (Just say "no" to the Obama Cult.)
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To: rwfromkansas
this is NOT 2000 and its NOT 2004.....

this election is an entirely different animal......

for one...the candidates and how they got there....

the MSM absolutely in the tank for TWO YEARS now.....

the extraordinary economic conditions...( which actually favor a conservative IMO)

IOWS......we have every single reason to know that the MSM and the Polls have an agenda...and their agenda is perfectly clear and it has been from day one....elect a socialist monster.....

go over to the PUMA site....there are posters there that will attest that the polls and the media are both being used and manipulated....

EAGLES UP!

223 posted on 11/03/2008 11:59:39 AM PST by cherry (Hail to Sarah.......Long live the Queen!)
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