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To: Chairman of the Bard; Centurion2000; Mr. Silverback

let me try this one more time.

Obama would have to replace the current US military personel in charge of our nukes with a few thousand of his own hand picked people, maybe from farakhan’s army.

then with the nuclear codes, he could order a strike against the US without any help from the current US military who would never participate, but then Obama would not need their help.

the only real problem would be the US submarine fleet. Obama would probably not be able to have enough people trained to run a sub to take over the trident’s nukes.


248 posted on 11/01/2008 11:16:44 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Are you familiar with the Yellowstone ‘cauldera’?


255 posted on 11/01/2008 11:25:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: staytrue
Obama would have to replace the current US military personel in charge of our nukes with a few thousand of his own hand picked people, maybe from farakhan’s army.

then with the nuclear codes, he could order a strike against the US without any help from the current US military who would never participate, but then Obama would not need their help.

No way this will fly.

ONE: Few thousand people? Replacement will not happen overnight.

TWO: Training? You think the people that train others how to deploy and fire nuclear weapons wouldn't notice a boatload of melanin-enhanced trainees with attitudes?

THREE: You're pre-supposing that the executors of that National Command Authority (Generals, colonels, majors) would not immediately recognize this as a nuclear armed coup-d'-etat in progress and start resisting.

257 posted on 11/01/2008 11:26:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: staytrue
Let me try this one more time:

1. The officers of the United States Air Force and United States Navy WILL NOT surrender their nuclear weapons to civilians from the President's staff, his hangers on or even his "civilian national security force." You may think there are a bunch of lib Wesley Clark types sitting around that Obama can tap, but there aren't enough. (Granted, you say he wouldn't need the military, so I assume you're talking about civilians.) 2. The "hand-picked" group you are talking about wouldn't be able to retarget the missiles...and what chance is there that the Air Force rank and file is going to retarget missiles for targets on our soil?

3. As you noted, Obama would need to replace the top officers on every missile sub in order to control the Navy's nuclear inventory. Well, even if your ludicrous "replace the Air Force brass with Louis Farrakhan and the folks from ACORN" scenario came true, all it would take to unravel it would be one sub captain and XO willing to say "If President Obama nukes an American city we nuke DC."

Try dealing with reality on this planet.

263 posted on 11/01/2008 11:42:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (*******It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.******)
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To: staytrue

****the only real problem would be the US submarine fleet. Obama would probably not be able to have enough people trained to run a sub to take over the trident’s nukes.****

Which is why this is not ultimately about a civil war that is won or lost per se. This is about dividing America so that it becomes weak as it wars against itself.


291 posted on 11/02/2008 6:59:58 AM PST by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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