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Obama plans 'Civilian National Security Force'
The Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | Salena Zito

Posted on 11/01/2008 7:49:38 PM PDT by Salena Zito

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To: JDoutrider
That does provide some measure of assurance.

I don't like to admit this, but I am genuinely frightened.

241 posted on 11/01/2008 11:05:43 PM PDT by Lexinom (They fight for ideology. We fight for our families.)
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To: Salena Zito
We already have a civilian national security force. Millions of law abiding and armed citizens. (Thanks to the 2nd ammendment.)

Origins and Development of the Second Amendment, David T. Hardy.

"William Pitt, the Earl of Chatham, remained the colonist’s defender in the House of Lords. Shortly after Concord, he urged attempts at peacemaking. ‘(T)he Congress of Philadelphia…do not hold the language of slaves: they tell you what they mean. They do not ask you to repeal your laws as a favor: they claim it as a right; they demand it. They tell you they will not submit to them, and I tell you the (Coercive) Acts must be repealed; you cannot enforce them….My Lords, there are three millions of whigs. Three millions of whigs, my Lords, with arms in their hands, are a very formitable (sic) body.

242 posted on 11/01/2008 11:06:32 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
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To: Lexinom
Civilian weaponry cannot stand up to Apache helicopters and air-to-surface missiles.

There are ways to bring those down as well.

243 posted on 11/01/2008 11:06:46 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: Salena Zito

They will pass it just like they passed the bailout bill that none of us wanted since they can’t hear us it seems in the media. I refuse to be part of any civilian force unless drafted and then it will be with a fight. But I don’t think they want many mid to late 40 year old lawyers anyway. And for it be funded as much as the military is not saying much.


244 posted on 11/01/2008 11:12:08 PM PDT by volslover
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To: PleaseNoMore
Just WHO will provide their services to this organization? Will it be military personnel? Police officers? National Guardsmen? Just who will this organization employ?
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Some marxist thugs, maybe?
245 posted on 11/01/2008 11:13:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
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To: April Lexington

It seems the US military has been struggling for some time to contain a bunch of bed-sheet clad yahoos in Afghanistan and Iraq. It would be a nightmare if the military had to try to suppress a domestic uprising consisting of 75,000,000 US gun owners who were p*ssed off about losing their country. If Afghanistan and Iraq can fight for their country, so can we.
It would be a lot simpler if we just elected McCain next week. Who needs a civil war?
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Spot On!!!

We are the largest land army on earth,,,BAR NONE!!!

“A Rifle Behind Every Tree” still holds true,,,

America cannot be “Taken”,,,

We would have to give it away!...


246 posted on 11/01/2008 11:15:07 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Lexinom

Fear is a powerful tool when it is used in the right way...


247 posted on 11/01/2008 11:15:15 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Pray for our Nation! Stop the big Zero!)
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To: Chairman of the Bard; Centurion2000; Mr. Silverback

let me try this one more time.

Obama would have to replace the current US military personel in charge of our nukes with a few thousand of his own hand picked people, maybe from farakhan’s army.

then with the nuclear codes, he could order a strike against the US without any help from the current US military who would never participate, but then Obama would not need their help.

the only real problem would be the US submarine fleet. Obama would probably not be able to have enough people trained to run a sub to take over the trident’s nukes.


248 posted on 11/01/2008 11:16:44 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Mr. Silverback; Chairman of the Board
Thanks, this place is awesome.
Yeah, it's like having a corner tavern where th 100,000 smartest people in the country hang out.

And you can even drink and FReep, and not have to worry about DUI on the way home. It does cut down on your debating and typing skills though.

249 posted on 11/01/2008 11:21:06 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: staytrue
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250 posted on 11/01/2008 11:22:04 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Chairman of the Bard

People, I don’t understand..why is this national security force just coming to light NOW???? I looked it up on line and saw it all over the internet in July, then NOT A THING until the last 2 days...what changed, why is this huge now???


251 posted on 11/01/2008 11:22:33 PM PDT by JoeTheMarine
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To: Lexinom

People, I don’t understand..why is this national security force just coming to light NOW???? I looked it up on line and saw it all over the internet in July, then NOT A THING until the last 2 days...what changed, why is this huge now???


252 posted on 11/01/2008 11:22:46 PM PDT by JoeTheMarine
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I love it when my fellow conservatives express such confidence in the American people. Sadly, the reality is that this nation will succumb rather quickly under the right circumstances and careful application of the combined weapons of isolation, starvation, and confiscation. If you think an election with such different candidates can cause civil division, imagine what isolationa nd starvation will do to polarize the people. There will be two camps of ‘we the people’, and you can guess which side the Marxist central authority will use to ferret out the other side, ‘to establish peace and end pockets of starvation and suffering’.


253 posted on 11/01/2008 11:23:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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People, I don’t understand..why is this national security force just coming to light NOW???? I looked it up on line and saw it all over the internet in July, then NOT A THING until the last 2 days...what changed, why is this huge now???


254 posted on 11/01/2008 11:25:22 PM PDT by JoeTheMarine
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To: staytrue

Are you familiar with the Yellowstone ‘cauldera’?


255 posted on 11/01/2008 11:25:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: JoeTheMarine
Well, speaking for myself I don't recall hearing about it in July. More folks are paying attention as the possibility now looms ominously close.

"Houston, that earth is getting mighty large in the window."

256 posted on 11/01/2008 11:25:31 PM PDT by Lexinom (They fight for ideology. We fight for our families.)
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To: staytrue
Obama would have to replace the current US military personel in charge of our nukes with a few thousand of his own hand picked people, maybe from farakhan’s army.

then with the nuclear codes, he could order a strike against the US without any help from the current US military who would never participate, but then Obama would not need their help.

No way this will fly.

ONE: Few thousand people? Replacement will not happen overnight.

TWO: Training? You think the people that train others how to deploy and fire nuclear weapons wouldn't notice a boatload of melanin-enhanced trainees with attitudes?

THREE: You're pre-supposing that the executors of that National Command Authority (Generals, colonels, majors) would not immediately recognize this as a nuclear armed coup-d'-etat in progress and start resisting.

257 posted on 11/01/2008 11:26:53 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: MHGinTN
Are you familiar with the Yellowstone ‘cauldera’?

OUCH ... yeah that would be a big achille's heel for us.

258 posted on 11/01/2008 11:28:26 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (To protect and defend ... against all enemies, foreign and domestic .... by any means necessary.)
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To: JoeTheMarine
You're right. When I researched this, I was baffled by the fact that the You Tube video was from July! I didn't watch his infomercial, but I'm told he brought up the subject again. In July, we had not yet seen the massive ACORN registration and voter fraud, the revelations of Obama’s campaign finance fraud had not yet fully come to light, and his Stalinist treatment of those who dare question him had not been seen.
259 posted on 11/01/2008 11:34:31 PM PDT by Chairman of the Bard
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To: Centurion2000

You make some good points in post 257.

I think the final point maybe that there may be a further failsafe that the public is unaware of (and maybe even potus is unaware of). That is it may take more than the missle operators and the president’s order and computer codes to fire the missles. It would be the final check and balance.

Nevertheless, this really is the only avenue for conquest of the US and that is from within and by potus and control of the US nuclear arsenal.


260 posted on 11/01/2008 11:34:43 PM PDT by staytrue
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