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To: gwilhelm56
Certificate was VERIFIED, but as of yet has not been PRODUCED!!

Yup; it was verfied that there is a piece of paper in a vault that has his name on it.

We'd all like to know what else it has written on it, and by whom, where, and when...and where THAT information came from.

Sign the SF-180, Senator! Let the Pentagon release your Rose Law Firm’s birth records...Awk; it’s all starting to run together.

123 posted on 11/01/2008 12:55:03 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Exactly - it says the certificate exists. But it has not been said where the certificate shows he was BORN, and etc. as you mentioned.

If Obama was born in Hawaii, there would be no reason to hold out.

Maybe the certificate he has shown was one given to him by his Grandparents who didn't want him to know the truth about his real father, or place of birth.

Maybe Obama had the fake document created, and now, to have that fraud known would collapse his whole party. He owes too much to too many people. He might have caught himself in a trap that will not only destroy him in the race, but destroy his career.

But, if that fake document is one he was given by his family, and he didn't know it was fake then, and does now...I am sure his trip to Hawaii was to make sure the Granny and family kept quiet about it and what they might have done years ago to protect him from any embarassment.

144 posted on 11/01/2008 3:19:55 PM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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