Posted on 10/28/2008 9:29:23 PM PDT by trumandogz
WASHINGTON Presidential candidate Barack Obama is making significant gains among Jewish voters, according to two new polls.
The polls suggest that after months of hovering around 60 per cent, Obama appears to be within striking distance of the 75 to 80 per cent of the Jewish vote won by the three previous Democratic nominees for president. A Gallup tracking poll of 564 registered Jewish voters, taken over the first three weeks of October, found Obama leading Republican John McCain by a 74 to 22 per cent margin. That was a 13-point increase in support for the Democratic nominee since Gallups July poll, which had Obama leading 61 to 34 per cent.
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My wife and her family are Jewish and Liberal Democrat. Her mom and dad used to be Republicans but became Democrats when the GOP started pushing the social conservative agenda. Thus, almost overnight they went from top GOP contributers to top Democratic contributers. They are one of the few people that have pictures with Goldwater, Nixon and Clinton.
Again, their reasons for being Democrats are social issues and their view on Israel is not necessarily congruent with that of Christian Conservatives.
I don't think you understand what "Jews" are. The folks who love Obama are NOT religious Jews. They don't observe Jewish laws and customs. They don't honor the Sabbath. Their so-called "rabbis" preach Socialism from the pulpit and denounce Israel for "human rights abuses" against Palestinian Arabs. These are NOT Jews. They are "JINOs"--Jews in Name Only.
Meanwhile 76% of RELIGIOUS Jews voted for G.W. Bush in 2004. And they are the future of Jews in America. While liberal, "Deformed" Jews die (200,000 in Florida over the next 10 years), turn gay, intermarry and have abortions, religious Jews are having 7 kids apiece.
Demographics is destiny. Liberal Jews are an endangered species. Like the Hebrews who built the Golden Calf and were cleansed in the desert over a generation, so these JINOs who worship FDR and Socialism will be cleansed from their flock within 20 years.
Jews voting for Obammie. What a bunch of ‘tards! Perhaps they’re unaware that one of his chief middle east advisors is in favor of taking all money we give to Israel and instead giving it to the Palestineans, and then sending a large U.S. military force “to ensure that Israel doesn’t practice genocide against the Palestineans.”
Could SOMEONE .. ANYONE .. on God’s green earth PLEASE explain to me WHY Jews are always in the tank for DimoRATS, and especially why they support Osama bin Biden?!! For the life of me .. I just don’t get it!!
So these Jews were racists?
I mean, to tell a black guy that they love Obammie because they just assume that ALL "colored people" are voting for Obammie!
Yes. All black people think exactly alike. Sheez!
Not relevant. Kerry had 75% of the Jewish vote also, and lost. Gore had 90% and lost (the popular vote ... hehe!).
Here are the under-reported reasons I have collected visiting FR way too much.
1) If you have not considered that Democratic Presidential campaigns would try to browbeat you into thinking that a Democrat win was inevitable, and that you should side with history, and vote with everyone, please read http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117212/posts
1.85) According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118129/posts, McCain is polling evenly in early voting exit polls in a county that has 28% more Democrats. Repeat: DEMOCRATS ARE VOTING McPALIN!!!
1.9) Oh yeah, the Joe the Plumber video isnt the only time Obama has let fly with his spread the wealth worldview. He blabbed about it profusely in 2001 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116921/posts
2) Polls that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone for a primer on how polls are cooked. UPDATE: Rasmussen saying McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio.
And now, a brief history lesson of ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS:
1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.
NO WAY is Obama up 14 points!
3) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to. Notice Hillary has not gotten Berg to cut it out with his birth certificate lawsuit.
4) Hussein being Obamas middle name is still news to most people.
5) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!
6) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org. Freeper lonestar67 says, Surveys have suggested that as many as 20-30% of Democrats may vote for McCain based on the rejection of Hillary. If even fractions of these claims are true, Obama would be hard pressed to win the election especially in key states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio.
7) [Bitter Clingers] to [Religion and Guns], will vote McCain, so much so that 22K of the 45K in Grand Junction, Colorado came out to see her http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110920/posts.
8) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly. According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2106836/posts parts of the country that were not fired up about the election, are working for Palin. She draws THOUSANDS at every campaign stop.
9) The NRA has 8 figures of ads to unload in swing states
10) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!
11) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.
12) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it is racism. They see the tea leaves ...
13) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts Both Zogby and Mike McCurry predicted a Kerry win.
14) McCain has only started to play the Ayers card. McCain has not yet played the Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com
15) Plenty of long-time Democratic voters are http://thehill.com/dick-morris/undecideds-should-break-for-mccain-2008-10-28.htmlnimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Two midwestern transplants have volunteered to me that they know lifelong Democrats who WILL NOT vote for Obama. The 1st hand accounts here on Free Republic about lack of enthusiasm for Obama relative to Kerry similarly bodes poorly for Obama.
16) Obama has only 75% of the Jewish vote last I checked, just like Kerry (comfortable R win). Gore got 90% (close R win). Please see http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_and_the_jewish_vote.php and http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08293/921167-470.stm
17) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.
18) McCain opened 50 offices in California. Its in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.
19) Google Bradley Effect. Obama is getting poll votes hell never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.
20) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.
21) Obamas spread the wealth line to Joe the Plumber will cost him undecideds not ready to etch the current class structure in stone.
22) The Enemedia overstating Obamas popularity will cut two ways. The lazy, and the youth, (core Democrat constituencies) will not brave traffic and lines to vote on election day, since they were lied to by the KGBMedia to believe that Obama has a gigantic lead. In fact, if I worked for the GOP, Id make sure free beer/music parties were being held outside of every major blue city before/on election day. Theyre called raves.
23) There is a group playing Jeremiah Wrights ads. Read more about it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108462/posts, and to donate visit https://www.completecampaigns.com/FR/contribute.asp?campaignid=OCDBPac.
24) The Obama crew already knows theyre going to lose. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110803/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103037/posts
25) Kerry won the Nickelodeon kids vote 57/43, and Obama won it 51/49! If you dont think kids vote like their parents, then you got another thing coming! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110843/posts
26) Freeper lonestar67 says, ... the misogynist treatment of Palin by the media elite has provided additional elements to the coming silent backlash especially among women.
27) Three people over 50 (white male and two Mexican women), on two occasions, on October 25th, asked me if I know about Obama not being a citizen. My Dad knows, and he emailed all his friends also. Point being, EVERYBODY KNOWS that Obama aint benevolently and humbly forthcoming with his birth certificate, and thus something fishy is afoot in Camelot.
28) Polls are meant by the Enemedia, to SHAPE public opinion, not to accurately report it. Get your news here! Stop torturing yourself! We bring the liberal media lies here, and we dissect them through the lenses of Christianity and Conservatism.
Fellow Freepers, please feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper or anyone feeling down, anywhere. No need to credit me or ping or write me.
Let me know if you have any other under-reported reasons for the coming McCain/Palin win.
Please tell me if you think there are mistakes.
Hey Obama supporters!! Taxes kill businesses, kill jobs, and kill people.
Except for the Orthodox Jews, which vote like Evangelical/Pentecostal Christians.
Thank them for voting smart the next chance you get.
What Jews are you talking about?
American Ashkenazi Jews?
American Sephardic Jews?
Israeli Jews?
Israeli Jews support McCain by a landslide.
Sephardic American Jews support McCain.
American Ashkenazi Jews are still in their Red Diaper phase and they will live to regret it as the Left is no friend of the Jews but they may not find out until it is too late.
And that is why the LAT is sitting on it. Hope it burns their buns.
Jews represent about 1.7% of voters...doesn’t matter how they vote.
On the other hand Jewish organizations like AIPAC and others make dispropotionately large cash controbutions (on a per capita basis), so the big question is were does the money lead?
Notwithstanding the above, my depth of knowlege not being in the foreign policy domain...I am confused as to why we can't count the Jews amoung our numbers.
Check out this link. The Jews in Israel know Obama better than the Jews in America:
(IsraelNN.com) Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama is currently hiding his anti-Israel views in order to get elected, according to a well-known anti-Israel activist. The activist, Ali Abunimah, claimed to know Obama well and to have met him on numerous occasions at pro-Palestinian events in Chicago.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125656
I also find that Republican administrations have been more supportive of the State of Israel than have the dims.
Wonder if they’ll change their minds when he sells Israel down the river? Of course, by then it’ll be too late....
American Jews and Christian Conservative do not necessarily have the same view on Israel and what is best for the long term survival of the Jewish State.
I’d like to think everyone could agree that standing by while Iran blows Israel into oblivion would be inimical to the long term survival of the Jewish State.
Jewish Vote In Presidential Elections
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewvote.html
From one Clavin to another.... got a hoot out of your profile.
Not in my family. We have one lone Obama hold-out who says “Bush is worse than Hitler!” Astonishing ignorance for a Jew. The rest of us are for McCain, for Hillary, or (in a few cases) just not voting. That’s the way it is in one Massachusetts Jewish family.
These have to be self hating/America Hating/Israel hating Jinos.
Jim Robinson has posted a long but great thread addressing this issue.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118022/posts
An article for those who think Obama is a friend of Israel: Barack Obama and Israel
The American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2008 | By Ed Lasky
Posted on Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:49:09 PM by Jim Robinson
Please take a few minutes and click the link below to read Jim’s thread addressing this issue:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118022/posts
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