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Why Obama has to stay above 50 percent
Salon ^ | Bill Greener

Posted on 10/26/2008 6:13:00 PM PDT by Chet 99

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To: Houghton M.

I do fear for you in any large city if this happens ie Obama loses. Won’t be as bad in medium size cities like Pgh, Buffalo,etc. BUT the big ones like LA, Detroit especially, Chicago, NY-heaven help us!
McCain will be undermined-he would need to stand tough and use the bully pulpit that Bush failed to do.


41 posted on 10/26/2008 6:51:35 PM PDT by Crosby87
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To: Porterville
I will not co-operate any longer with pollsters, I think this is an excellant idea.
42 posted on 10/26/2008 6:54:22 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: Chet 99; All

According to Rasmussen .. Obama HAS NEVER BEEN ABOVE 50 - OR EVEN 50. The best Obama could do was 49.

And .. remember .. in both 2000 and 2004, there was this magic number 45 - which the liberals used for anyone running against their candidates. If you’re 45 or under - YOU WILL LOSE.

But .. also remember that in 2000 and 2004 - the margin of dems to repubs was ALWAYS OVERWEIGHTED in the liberal’s polling - and it got as bad as 16%. That’s why when Bush won the dems were so upset because their lies were exposed.

I’ve noticed that most of the liberal polls always show McCain at 45 or below .. except for Rasmussen.


43 posted on 10/26/2008 6:57:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Michael Yon: "The U.S. military is the most respected institution in Iraq.")
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To: Chet 99

I tell pollsters that there is only one poll that matters and they will just have to wait to find out what I’ll do/did.


44 posted on 10/26/2008 6:58:15 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Palin for President! (RINOs? PUMA))
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To: Houghton M.

“I live in Chicago. I’m damn scared. I’m scared of what an Obama victory will mean for generations to come. And I’m scared of what a McCain victory will mean that night or the next few days. And our ability to defend ourselves has been taken from us by our godawful Mayor.”

I work in Chicago (the Loop) but live about 30 miles west. I will not be anywhere near downtown during election week, as I’m taking some vacation days. I do not want to get caught in the middle of what is apt to be some very bad situations. No, sir; I’ll be home in (still) Republican Dupage County, where it is still legal to defend your home and family.


45 posted on 10/26/2008 7:02:11 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: housedeep
Screw the polls....stay the course!!! Photobucket
46 posted on 10/26/2008 7:03:32 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: housedeep
Screw the polls....stay the course!!! Photobucket
47 posted on 10/26/2008 7:03:41 PM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Actually, if McCain wins VA, OH, NC, FL, AND PA, it will be OVER for Obama pretty early.


48 posted on 10/26/2008 7:06:24 PM PDT by RockinRight (Obama who?)
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To: Chet 99

McCain can win by controlling the narrative in the last week. That means attacking Obama where he is most vulnerable, his 20 year association with Wright and Black Liberation Theology. Hammer Obama on his honesty and Obama’s narrative falls apart.


49 posted on 10/26/2008 7:10:45 PM PDT by igoramus08 (Under Obama 100% of Americans will have a Tax Increase when the Bush Tax cuts expire in 2011)
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To: Chet 99

Good article. Basically shows 4 races where the ‘undecideds’ break very heavily (overwhelmingly in cases) for the white candidate.

Couple this with Michael Barone’s excellent analysis and you get a race that says “hold on tight”.

McCain/Palin can indeed win this if conservatives get out and vote!


50 posted on 10/26/2008 7:11:32 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: Chet 99

Personal anecdote, perhaps shared by other FReepers: If I don’t know who is calling via caller ID, I don’t pick up the phone. That would probably include a polling firm trying to call.


51 posted on 10/26/2008 7:13:25 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: annieokie
I Just Got Polled By CBS News/NY Times

I answered as most FReepers would, but I said I considered myself a conservative Democrat.

52 posted on 10/26/2008 7:16:28 PM PDT by Ziva (McCain could never make me vote for him... but Obama can.)
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To: lonestar67

Then the logical question becomes, are those who are voting against 0bama b/c of his half-blackedness going to negate them?

For every action, there is an equal and opposite...


53 posted on 10/26/2008 7:17:11 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Get off your ass and do something...Print signs and post them around town)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Obama is a proud man with an inferiority complex.

Perhaps because of his insecurities, because of the lack of a definitive male authority figure in childhood, Obama does not take criticism well.

Therefore, he doesn't learn. Therefore, he didn't learn from his "Greek Pillars" episode. This man thinks he's larger than life, and one day will have a great fall on account of his pride.

54 posted on 10/26/2008 7:18:11 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Take every Red state where Hillary beat Obama in the primary and see if it is a state in play. Put that state in McCain’s column.

Any state that Obama won in the primary, change into a tossup.



55 posted on 10/26/2008 7:19:56 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Perhaps this map is better:


56 posted on 10/26/2008 7:22:40 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: uncbob

He’s right tho, by all rights Generic Democrat should be up 10-12 points against Generic Republican.

If the incumbent party couldn’t hold on in 2000, it can’t be reasonably expected that the incumbent party in 08 will, considering how much worse off we are.


57 posted on 10/26/2008 7:22:58 PM PDT by Boiling Pots (Get off your ass and do something...Print signs and post them around town)
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To: lonestar67
I don’t recall reading about the Bradley effect when Ken Blackwell ran for governor in Ohio or Steele. I don’t recall any worries about the Bradley effect when Keyes stepped into the fray with Obama in Illinois.

The Bradley effect wouldn't be relevant in Obama vs. Keyes because they were both black.

That said, I'm skeptical the Bradley effect is going to amount to very much...

58 posted on 10/26/2008 7:23:11 PM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Miss Didi

Wait a minute, Californai is going to go to McCain


59 posted on 10/26/2008 7:23:25 PM PDT by gogov
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To: gogov

So is NY. ;)


60 posted on 10/26/2008 7:24:06 PM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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