It has been that this newspaper only took birth announcements from hospitals, but is that true? Why couldn't a family send in an announcement?
Posted on 10/24/2008 7:31:37 AM PDT by presidio9
His family is not in their right mind. She wanted to fly back before the birth which she supposedly tried to do because US citizenship is worth a lot. She tried before the birth but she was too far along.
A birth certificate issued by a local health department does not typically list the witnesses to the live birth, only a recording of the birth, and would usually require simply a statement by the parent and a witness. Hospitals provide their own certificates of live birth and that information is normally used by the government entity.
I find it very plausible that if Obama was born in Kenya efforts were made by his mother to have his birth registered in Hawaii to maintain a US citizenship -- however fraudulently.
What you really want is that hospital certificate, with the attending physician statement -- or the original statement of witnesses.
Nothing of the sort has ever been produced by the Obama camp, and the certified birth statement floating on the net compliments of factcheck.org is very suspect since it was modified using photoshop back in June of this year when questions arose.
The lack of curiosity of the media (including conservative media) is unexplainable. I believe there was more questioning of McCain's eligibility because he was born in the US Territory of the Canal Zone, than there has been in regard to the eligibility of Hussein.
If he was born in Hawaii, then why doesn't the Obama camp just produce a real document proving it? My guess is that if he was born in Hawaii, that the birth certificate does not say "Barak Hussein Obama". I'd be willing to bet that his name is something like "Barry Stanley Dunham". OK, he'd be eligible, but he'd be shown to be a fraud. They will release it AFTER the election. The public has a right to see the documents BEFORE the election.
I see your point. But nobody is asking the BIG question. You can’t tell me that Hillary and Bill were in the dark on this. Why didn’t she bring this up and just boot him from the primaries?
As it should be. He's not president until sworn in.
Also worth noting is a birth announcement in the Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listing Obama’s birth there on Aug. 4.
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And why would someone who was nine months pregnant decide to fly halfway around the world (in 1961, before the age of the big, long-range jets) to a third-world country? There is a big logical hole in the born-in-Kenya theory.
The birth announcement is questionable as it is in a type font different than the rest of the page on microfiche.
If Obama had a US birth certificate he would have produced it by now. But his medical records and college admissions records - both containg his birthplace - have not been opened to public scrutiny either.
The junior Senator from Illinois is hiding something.
This isn't unusual, actually. The judge makes the ultimate decision as to whether or not to sign something, but parties in litigation often draft the orders they want the judge to issue. It saves time for everyone involved.
A crazy 18-year old girl who has just discovered her Kenyan “husband”, the father of her newborn son, is already married and a father to a child in Kenya.
“Birth announcement doesn’t state place of birth.”
It does have an address, but the question is that the grandparents house?
I just don't think it will be resolved before the election and then it will be deeply buried regardless of who wins. He should be discredited forever if he has deceived America in this fashion.
The key is to get a ruling after Nov 4, but before the electoral college meets ==> President Hillary.
“One other thing. Has anyone even asked the name of the doctor who delivered him? That seems like it would be standard info on a birth certificate.”
Yep, it’s a feature on mine as well as having the signature of the registrar. Mine also has a certificate number as well as a records number. And it has an embossed seal......And that’s just the certified copy of my birth certificate.
I think that the “copy” that barry has posted is indeed a forgery, because as someone pointed out earlier his father’s race would have been listed in 1961 as “Negro” as opposed to the more PC and modern “African”.
It has been that this newspaper only took birth announcements from hospitals, but is that true? Why couldn't a family send in an announcement?
I wonder if someone could order a few certificates with serial numbers in sequence just before and after Obama’s. While they are at it, order one with Obama’s exact number as well and see what you get.
Actually attorneys do it all the time. I’m a paralegal, not an attorney, but I’ve seen judges ask attorneys to “write an order to that effect” after granting a motion.
Frequently, attorneys include an order in the papers they file. Then the judge can sign whichever one he chooses when he makes an order.
— Jane Reinheimer
In order to assure US citizenship. It counts for a lot. ;^)
“Given the Leftie nature of the Dunhams, the ability of their grandson to avoid the draft by just going to Kenya for a couple of years must have occurred to them.”
He was born in 1961. The draft ended in 1973, and he wouldn’t have been 18 until 1979.
I thought I read somewhere that Indonesia did not recognize dual citizenship and that to travel as an Indonesian citizen, after the age of majority, on an Indonesian passport, one would have had to renounce his American citizenship.
Anyway to look up what the requirements were for Americans traveling into Pakistan when Obama was traveling? I know there was alot of turmoil.
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