[mlocher]

It is not these people who are at fault, but the change in American Culture that is. Obama has amply shown us who he is. If he gets in so be it.

I understand your point and generally agree with it. However, I refuse to put the blame on the American Culture. Yes, it has degenerated. But to blame the culture is to, in a way, give up. There are culprits that are causing problems and they need to be flushed out and put in prison. Clean up the individuals that need it, and the culture will start to move in the proper direction.

[TalBlack]

You've got the cart before the horse. Culture drives what these guys can get away with. THEY have been degrading the culture for generations now. We are entering a new era now: The Clash of Cultures. Believe me this involves the OPPOSITE of giving up on our part. I honestly believe that McC is going to win, but if not, so be it.