The MSM loses its mind over undocumented plumbers(MSM Lies Joe's boss does have license)

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[DaveTesla]

[posted by ArrMatey]

By now I hope you read my earlier post below. Link is here. Across the blogosphere, we have news that Joe the Plumber, single father, American working guy, aspiring business owner, is about to be shut down and put out of work, to the great glee of Obama supporters.

I am angry. I know I ought not blog angry. I’m going to count to a hundred, listen to some Men without Hats, and finish writing this in a few….

I’m back. It’s amazing what a few minutes listening to Pop Goes the World can do for you. Here are the links: 1. HotAir reports that “Toledo Moves to Shut Down Joe the Plumber”. 2. NBC affiliate reports that even Joe’s boss is not licensed: “If the boss of a company has valid documentation employees are covered. However, NBC-24 learned neither Joe, nor his boss Al Newell, are authorized to do work in Lucas County.” 3. MSNBC repeats what I’ll shortly show you is incorrect, that boss Newell is not licensed: “And the county Wurzelbacher and Newell live in, Lucas County, requires plumbers to have licenses, but neither is licensed there, said Cheryl Schimming of Lucas County Building Regulations, which handles plumber licenses in parts of the county outside Toledo.”

And so on. Now let me tell you that many news outlets are getting the story right, that Joe’s boss, Mr. Newell (in business since 1974, God bless you sir, I’m sure you could never have imagined all this happening to you in America), is in fact licensed in Lucas County. How do I know? Because the State of Ohio’s computers told me so, and they would tell the media the same if they looked…like I did.

Mr. Newell is licensed. He is licensed in Lucas County. His license number starts with the digits 329 and then has two more digits. I don’t see any need to post more identifying information about innocent people. Search here, plug in the right paramaters, and you can download the list of all licensed plumbers in Lucas County, Ohio. It is not difficult, though you have to provide information about yourself as the requester of the information.

So I got this list of licensees.

Mr. Newell is on that list. And if I read the rules of apprenticeship correctly (I am not an Ohio attorney, and yes I could be reading it wrong), the reported date of November 2003 as the date of filing of Joe’s apprenticeship papers seems to be just fine. According to this,

“The Ohio Construction Industry Licensing Board (O.C.I.L.B.), Department of Commerce, Division of Industrial Compliance, issues state commercial licenses to the following contractors: electrical, HVAC, hydronics, plumbing, and refrigeration. To receive a state license, an applicant must meet the following requirements: 1) be at least 18 years of age; 2) be a United States citizen or a legal alien-must provide proof of being a legal alien; 3) either have been a tradesperson in the type of licensed trade for which the application is filed for not less than five years immediately prior to the date the application is filed, currently be a registered engineer in this state with three years of business experience in the construction industry in the trade for which the engineer is applying to take the examination, or have other experience acceptable to the appropriate section of the board; 4) not have been convicted of or plead guilty to a misdemeanor involving moral turpitude or of any felony; 5) pass the examination in the trade; 6) carry minimum $500,000 contractor liability coverage; 7) pay the applicable fees”

So here’s the point. Many news outlets have gotten it correct, but some have not and that needs to be corrected. Mr. Newell is licensed, and Joe the Plumber is just short of his five years before he can apply for licensure, but as supervised by Newell, he’s o.k.. You can look at screen captures of the entire list of Lucas County licensed plumbers here (part 1) and here (part 2). And as we read the news stories about local officials mobilizing to put Joe out of work, (quote: “A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wurzelbacher to notify him that he can’t work without a license. “We’re trying to track him down,” she said”), consider the following:

Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on the list of licensees. Disclaimer: I don’t care that none of them are on the list, and I know that not necessarily every one of the union officers are plumbers at all, as they also represent other trades. That said, their spokesman is on record slamming Joe about licensure.

Alan W. Newell's license.
15th from bottom.
Lic #32957



Search list of all licensed plumbers in Lucas County, Ohio
http://elicense1-roster.com.ohio.gov/default.asp

[jacquej]

don’t we all, in our hearts, wish that Joe is, or will become, one of us?

God bless you, Joe, wherever you might be. You did a good thing.

[fhayek]

fhayek's rule: The more the msn sets out to destroy you, the greater champion of American values you must be.

[gov_bean_ counter]

The part missed by many is the point that even though the plumber won’t be impacted by the tax increase he realizes it is an impediment to his future success and wants no part of the plan.

[feedback doctor]

The poll PBS ought to do:

[Salamander]

Who’s “Leno”?

[I never watch that lying creep]

[feedback doctor]

I was thinking more along the lines of secretary of commerce.

I'm think he should be the head of the IRS!

[Jeff Head]

That is precisely the point. Joe is a smart, hard working, forward facing American worker. He knows the score and sees right throught the socialist/marxist plan of Obama.

There are tens of millions more like him.

[narses]

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[YdontUleaveLibs]

Hey, I think I would listen to the Rush and Joe show. I have wanted something like that for years a regular “Joe” on talk radio.

[Ciexyz]

Hang in there, Joe.

[CommieCutter]

Yeah he said he “wasn’t a plumber” his “name wasn’t joe”!

Joe is his middle name! WTF

Everyone at ALL the NETWORKS deserve to be out of work!!!!!

[HerrBlucher]

I lost it tonight. Every two weeks I visit with some lib friends and we drink, argue, shoot the bull, joke, and for the most part it is fun. But that has ended as of tonight. The slime about bambi has been bothering me for months now and the friendly disagreements have started to get heated. But tonight, before going up there, I watched bambi publicly ridicule joe the plumber just for being plumber and watched the bambiphiles laugh. I was absolutely sickened by it. Well, while me and my lib friends were watching tv a bambi commercial came on about what wonderful things he was going to do for working people.....I let out a flurry of obscenities that would make a longshoreman blush and just left my friends home in a huff all the while damning bambi. I told them it was nothing personal and that I would be back another time but I don’t know now.

This isn’t a normal election, this isn’t about liberal vs conservative its about Stalinism vs liberty, its about the beginning of civil war II if bambi wins and trys to implement his Stalinist agenda.

I have calmed down. I normally feel bad when I lose it and apologize, but I don’t feel bad this time. I really don’t know if I can handle bambi supporters anymore.....I don’t just disagree with their candidate I am sickened by his elitism, his Stalinism, his lies, his arrogance, his infanticide...its too much to take.

Ok, venting over.

[DaveTesla]

I am still angry.

I know that is not a good thing.
GOD please help me.

The man only told the truth.
Evil hates the truth.

[DaveTesla]

” bambi commercial came on about what wonderful things he was going to do for working people”

What is Mr. Obama going to do for others?
Mr. Obama makes and is worth millions and does not even help his own brother.
If I despised my brother (NEVER) I would never leave him like that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

[boocoowell]

I feel your pain. I let a prospective customer slip thru the cracks because my blood started to boil when I saw an Obama sticker on his gigantic SUV.

[fhayek]

Be cool, never let politics interfere with commerce.

[HerrBlucher]

Exactly, and coming fresh off his ridicule of a very hard working man who simply asked him a question.....like I said it is too much to take.

Bambi is disgusting to the core. I thought I could not detest a democrat more than I detested John Kerry, but along comes bambi to lower the bar even more. Is it even possible for democrats to find a more repulsive candidate?

[Jim Noble]

In the meantime, the MSM ignores gaping scandals such as Ayers, admitted cocaine use, birth certificate forgery, socialist party (new party) membership, babykilling votes, and 5 other scandals brewing right here on FR.

The line is, "The MSM found out more about Joe in 24 hours than they did about Obama in 24 months".

Pass it on.

[HerrBlucher]

I think many if not most dems would prefer bambi not be their candidate, and I think that is true with my friends. However, they want soooo much to have a dem as prez they will overlook just about anything to have it, and so they look the other way and support the most disgusting candidate ever to run for office simply because he is a dem.

Stalinism, infanticide, elitism, appeasement to our enemies, racism, bigotry, ol bambi just has it all doesn’t he?

[XR7]

Subject: ABCNEWS.com: Meet Joe the Plumber

Meet Joe the Plumber

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6047458

And now, watch Barak Obama mocking Joe the Plumber

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqis9mRcWl4