Yea, I remember the Luntz group in the first debate. Asked for a show of hands, and said overwhelming for Obama.
I happened to be recording the debate. So I paused it, and counted hands. I was about 15-13 for Obama with a few undecideds. Not overwhelming.
Luntz even made a comment tonight about scolding the panel about partisanship. I found that interesting and an almost consession to previous mistakes.