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Math Skills Suffer in U.S., Study Finds
The New York Times ^ | 2008-10-10 | Sara Rimer

Posted on 10/11/2008 8:23:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

The United States is failing to develop the math skills of both girls and boys, especially among those who could excel at the highest levels, a new study asserts, and girls who do succeed in the field are almost all immigrants or the daughters of immigrants from countries where mathematics is more highly valued.

The study suggests that while many girls have exceptional talent in math — the talent to become top math researchers, scientists and engineers — they are rarely identified in the United States. A major reason, according to the study, is that American culture does not highly value talent in math, and so discourages girls — and boys, for that matter — from excelling in the field. The study will be published Friday in Notices of the American Mathematical Society.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; math; matheducation
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1 posted on 10/11/2008 8:23:10 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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Competent people represent too great a danger for the left. Must teach that “Jimmy has two Mommies”, not how to add and subtract.


2 posted on 10/11/2008 8:29:25 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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How could our math skills be sliding when the Media
puts forth someone like Snoop Dog as an Icon?
IT DOESN”T MAKE SENSE!


3 posted on 10/11/2008 8:29:30 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: rabscuttle385

Miss Teen Journey is making A’s in her 3, yes three, advanced math courses in high school this year.


5 posted on 10/11/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by itsthejourney (1 of every 10 people you pass in the mall is here illegally)
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To: rabscuttle385

This is because te liberals wanted to make math easier for girls so they watered down the curriculum. Facts showed boys were stronger at math but that didn’t jibe with the feminist agenda. Now every kid suffers.


7 posted on 10/11/2008 8:33:49 AM PDT by ObamaOsamaisaTerrorist
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To: rabscuttle385

As long as the government schools are teaching kids muticulturalism, diversity, homosexual appreciation and how to put on condoms; there is little need for insignificant subjects like math and science.


8 posted on 10/11/2008 8:35:04 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Competent people represent too great a danger for the left. Must teach that “Jimmy has two Mommies”, not how to add and subtract.”

...Jimmy’s babys daddy is Jimmy Joe.


9 posted on 10/11/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by IndianPrincessOK (McCain/Palin...2 pit bulls, one with lipstick! Pigs will fly with lipstick Nov. 4th)
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To: rabscuttle385

The way things like No Child Left Behind work is they set testing goals based on universal passage and everyone getting to the same level. So in order to meet the ever-increasing goals (they go up to 100% in each of more than a dozen different racial/economic categories by 2014) teachers and schools have to focus all their attention on the kids on the cusp. That means the smart ones don’t have enough attention paid to them and aren’t nurtured.

I know this idea of universal graduation and competence in every subject is a nice one but at some level you have to focus resources and attention on making the high achievers better and realize that not every kid needs to or should go to college and that we need mechanics and plumbers too.


10 posted on 10/11/2008 8:35:43 AM PDT by DemonDeac
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Math Skills Suffer in U.S., Study Finds

As is evidenced by the people in Washington who think that one can somehow get 700 billion dollars from a purse that not only doesn't have any money but is actually in debt (i.e. a 10-trillion dollar national debt, I think).

-10 trillion minus 700 billion = pure insanity

Now there's some real math for you.

11 posted on 10/11/2008 8:35:55 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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Not only math skills are but understanding of the economy as well.

If people understood how the economy ticks they would know how bad Obama’s economic plan is. But he’s winning, which tells you a lot about the economic knowledge of the majority who would vote for him.


12 posted on 10/11/2008 8:39:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Maybe schools should go back to tracking kids rather than putting them in varied level classes. My daughter is in three accelerated classes in sixth grade. That's great. But her other two classes have very low students in them. And one of the two teachers has chosen to teach to the low kids rather than the middle/high performing kids. He said so in a parent meeting and my question back was...what about the other kids? He didn't have a valuable answer. I asked for extra work so that I can help her at home. She's learning less because she is losing focus because he is going too slow.
I teach two classes that have low kids in them, but I don't/can't teach solely to them. The high performing kids deserve their education as well. I won't dumb down my academic because I have low students.
Parents need to step up and expect performance from their children. It's amazing/scary how little many parents expect of their children.
I don't give out A's. They are earned.
13 posted on 10/11/2008 8:40:56 AM PDT by conservativeteach
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You got that right. I teach at a private school that has recently jettisoned all traditional math in favor of the constructivist method that has brought us to our mathematical knees as a nation. It just makes me sick. My wife has to teach it in the lower grades. I get the miserable results to work with in 9-12.


14 posted on 10/11/2008 8:43:37 AM PDT by Chaguito
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How can they have math skills, when you are required to buy your children $150 calculators for their math classes?


15 posted on 10/11/2008 8:52:40 AM PDT by Brown Deer
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How can they have math skills, when you are required to buy your children $150 calculators for their math classes?

Just get home equity loan out. Duh!

Hire tutors, too. The teachers are so burdened by paperwork and union duties, that they don't have time to teach the kids.

16 posted on 10/11/2008 8:59:11 AM PDT by CE2949BB (McCain/Palin 08)
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To: conservativeteach

you can get as advanced as you want on your own with BOOKS

I did all the time in HS and college

The easiest way is to just go into future chapters in the text before the class or without the class

brave for not letting kids get good grades without EARNING them


17 posted on 10/11/2008 9:05:08 AM PDT by kauaiboy (Obama is a islamomarxist plant)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Wonder if some of Hussein’s education fund went towards math skills?


18 posted on 10/11/2008 9:07:47 AM PDT by biff
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Here is Dec, I will finish an undergrad degree in statistics and I can tell you that American kids are math stupid. I work for my university by tutoring for a class called Business Statistics. This is a class required for all busines/finance/economic etc majors. You would not believe the number of students I see that don’t know how to take an average of a group of numbers. The concepts taught in the class are not difficult to understand, but I am constantly amazed at people’s inability to understand basic mathematica theory.

As I think about my department, I think there are 6 American statistics majors and in the mathematics department it is probably 4 to 1 or higher foreign to American. It really is scary.


19 posted on 10/11/2008 9:07:48 AM PDT by Rays_Dad (H. Clinton-Every man who looks at her is reminded of his first wife, even if he's never been married)
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To: Proud2BeRight
As long as the government schools are teaching kids muticulturalism, diversity, homosexual appreciation and how to put on condoms; there is little need for insignificant subjects like math and science.

Evidently there's no need for English, either.

Thug thizzle?

20 posted on 10/11/2008 9:07:52 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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