[ari-freedom]

if this has a shot in CA then so does mccain

[goldstategop]

You'll see an enormous turnout of conservative voters. Proposition 8 will pass by at least 60%. The polls always understate the true appeal of traditional marriage in this society.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[rogue yam]

if this has a shot in CA then so does mccain

I've lived in California for decades. I have never doubted for a second that Prop. 8 would pass. McCain, however, stands no chance. There are loads of people here (Latinos, Asians, blacks, public employees, union members, retirees, etc) who will always vote 'Rat because they want the entitlements but who oppose the radical gay agenda. Such folks don't get too many chances to push back against the mandatory-sodomy-lessons-in-public-preschools crowd. When they do get such a chance, push back they will.