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1 posted on 10/08/2008 7:12:17 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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It’s time to riot, my FRiends.


2 posted on 10/08/2008 7:13:04 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (MCCAIN/PALIN '08!!!!!)
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This is so wrong, despicably!
3 posted on 10/08/2008 7:14:49 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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I am ALL for capitalism, but THIS, my friends, is NOT IT.


5 posted on 10/08/2008 7:16:01 AM PDT by Paradox (Obama, the Audacity of Hype.)
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First: Every penny should be reimbursed by the individuals involved.

Second: They should be arrested for fraud and "perp-walked".

Third: No fines, no country club prison - hard time, hard labor - breaking big rocks into small ones for a long time.

6 posted on 10/08/2008 7:17:12 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Just your average "Whitey" - clinging to my guns and religion!)
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What really angers me is that the venial congressmen acting shocked by this waste of taxpayer money while they make their living out of wasting taxpayer’s money. And what really galls me is that they get a golden parachute of hundreds of thousands of those same taxpayer’s dollars after finally retiring or (too few) being voted out of office.
US businessmen are so out of touch that they make convenient whipping boys to deflect the anger of taxpayers away from their real tormentors, the liberals in Congress.


7 posted on 10/08/2008 7:17:18 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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Did they put that $402,701.04 deposit before the crash? Could they have gotten any of it back or was it nonrefundable? If they didn't go, would the press be having fits about the $400k they wasted on an important corporate meeting they didn't even attend?

I think that the trip to the resort was a complete waste of money and it shows how the execs of far too many companies see the company as an expensive plaything rather than a responsibility, but I wonder if they were in a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" situation.

11 posted on 10/08/2008 7:20:55 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The $700B bail out is giving parachutes to bankers while we must keep our seat belts on and shut up.)
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GREENBERG, MAURICE R
NEW YORK , NY 10270
AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL GROUP, INC./
DEMOCRATIC SENATORIAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE (D) $10,000
primary 06/07/07


12 posted on 10/08/2008 7:22:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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The congressional hearings on executive abuses at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are scheduled to begin on...

*crickets chirping*

Hello? Is this thing on?

16 posted on 10/08/2008 7:23:16 AM PDT by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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had they been senators on vacation after enacting a huge tax hike, there’d be no problem.


21 posted on 10/08/2008 7:26:02 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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AIG bought a posh waterfront resort near me in the 90’s and put in tens of millions to upgrade it as a corporate haven. Then, they owned their OWN spa and resort, and it was probably not the only one. They sold it a few years back, (2005?). Someone should investigate to see if they own any more of these corporate retreats outright as part of their “holdings”.
28 posted on 10/08/2008 7:37:51 AM PDT by Melinda
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This is what I understand has happened. First from my experience in the 'Hospitality Industry', you don't do such conferences on a moment's notice, nor can you cancel such without considerable cost. From what I see, there was already a deposit paid of $400k+ for this conference of 8? days length that occurred just days AFTER the Government buy-in. I have heard that the majority of attendees were sales people from a 'profitable' division of AIG. This would make it different to me in that these are the income producers, not the upper executives living off of the 'fat of the land'.

My guess is that the contract stated that there would be a 100% forfeiture of deposit if canceled in less than 15 days before the scheduled event except for 'Acts of God'. The Resort would have already bought the supplies and locked-down the rooms for this event, hence the forfeiture clause. Consequently, whoever was ramrodding this event probably was faced with 'rock and hard place' decision. Leave $400k on the table for nothing, disrupt all travel plans of attendees and loose a chance to acquaint all with the 'new realities' in person OR do it anyway and take the heat.

The real idiocy was the extra charges for golf, liquor and Spa charges. In the light of events, management should have told all to pay for their own and if they were entertaining business guests, put it on their expense accounts. HOWEVER, speaking again from some experience, some of these charges may have been specified in the contract and thus non-discretionary (not atypical in a Resort setting).

I too was grabbed by the headline but upon reflection I think I might have made the same decision. I would have just hoped that I could have explained my actions before the media firestorm. Given the election year, the financial crisis and the proclivities of the media, it looks much like an absolute no-win scenario.

31 posted on 10/08/2008 7:43:43 AM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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Good Lord! There’s no end to this crap.


32 posted on 10/08/2008 7:47:18 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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These companies cannot possibly be hurting when they can spend million and even billions on bonuses and this sort of BS. The “bailout” was nothing more than a taxpayer “handout”.


37 posted on 10/08/2008 7:59:03 AM PDT by CodeToad
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Exactly who are the incompetent jerks here?

The preening politicians and bureaucrats who are busy giving away hundreds of billions of taxpayer money to Glutinous Pigs on Wall Street?

Or the Glutinous Pigs who have been living large while driving their company into the drink, and who now have their loot safely tucked away while government idiots try to put Humpty Dumpty together again?


39 posted on 10/08/2008 8:17:44 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself)
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The dem’s October Surprise is getting out of hand...


43 posted on 10/08/2008 8:27:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (Derivative traders HAVE MADE MORE MONEY THAN EXISTS - Bailouts & rate cuts to ZERO won't work.)
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I’m actually shocked that their democrat friends in congress are outraged. But then there is no proof of outrage on the part of congress, just hot air. Prosecution and seizing their personal assets to offset the taxes to bail the company out of the mess they created would positively indicate real outrage and anger.

Never happen, they are big democrat contributors.


52 posted on 10/08/2008 8:53:06 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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In ages past this would have been torches and pitchforks time, with the peasants heading for Frankenstein’s castle...


54 posted on 10/08/2008 8:54:37 AM PDT by Boagenes (I'm your huckleberry, that's just my game.)
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