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What do you think? Obama(the stealth candidate) and Ayers met in NYC?
1 posted on 10/07/2008 2:20:38 PM PDT by vrwc54
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What the hell did this guy fill TWO autobiographies with?


2 posted on 10/07/2008 2:21:45 PM PDT by tsmith130
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Some coke heads can't even say Columbia without sniffing .
3 posted on 10/07/2008 2:23:10 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know F/8 Cav)
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To: vrwc54

Ask Hillary !!


4 posted on 10/07/2008 2:23:34 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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The Dumbocrat party has been tooken


6 posted on 10/07/2008 2:26:40 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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To: vrwc54
Underground terrorist cells are VERY SELECTIVE about who they let into THEIR WORLD!

The founder of the WeatherUnderground let Barry Obama into THEIR WORLD. Bill Ayers selected Barry as the Chairman of a leftist foundation that Ayers founded.

BARRY IS DIRTY AS HELL!

7 posted on 10/07/2008 2:29:31 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: vrwc54

Very good article by Andrew C. McCarthy. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 10/07/2008 2:30:03 PM PDT by PGalt
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I have been wondering about this myself.

Certainly someone in the conservative press can find an alumni directory and find the political science majors who graduated with Obama in 1983. I am amazed that no one from Columbia has come forward-certainly someone must want to jump up and down for joy and say they were in classes with Obama. Where are they? Do any of his professor remember him?


9 posted on 10/07/2008 2:31:26 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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Tell me why the American should TRUST this guy when he doesn’t TRUST the American people with his background information.


13 posted on 10/07/2008 2:39:30 PM PDT by IM2MAD
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I can’t find, or put together, even a reliable time line on when Obama started Occidental, when he left there (with how many credits or years) and started Columbia, when he graduated Columbia and the hiatus between then and starting Harvard. Ayers was at Columbia when Bambi was there, and of course both in NYC, and then both ended up in Chicago. Rezko recruited Omaba at Harvard, or was it Columbia? Someone paid Bambi’s tuition at Columbia where he was non-honors, and of course at Harvard. It is maddening how the MSM blurs all the lines, and as McCain said in Albuqurque, whenever someone asks about such things they are met with a barrage of insults (racist, liar, etc.).


15 posted on 10/07/2008 2:40:06 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: vrwc54
Andy Martin catalogues some unanswered questions about Barack Obama and William Ayers Did Barack Obama meet William Ayers at Columbia University?
17 posted on 10/07/2008 2:41:48 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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THE AYERS/OBAMA TIMELINE: (Version 2.0; a work in progress; dates are approximate)

1981-1983 [William Ayers and Barack Obama meet at Columbia?]

1987 William Ayers links up with Barack Obama in Chicago

1988 Ayers solicits Khalid Al-Mansour to raise money for Obama’s Harvard law School education

1989 Tom Ayers and William Ayers get Obama a summer job at Sidley & Austin (where he meets Michelle Obama); Ayers’ wife Bernadine Dohrn also worked at Sidley at about the same time as Barack and Michelle.

1993 Ayers places Obama on Woods Foundation

1995 Ayers makes Obama Chairman of Annenberg Challenge

1995 Ayers hosts a coffee klatch for Obama’s political debut (Obama falsely claims this is when he met Ayers)

2007-2008 The structure of Obama’s presidential campaign increasingly comes to resemble an Ayers-designed national “community organizer matrix” straight out of Maoist theory. This is not merely a presidential “campaign.” Obama’s organization is the first installment of an ongoing movement being paid for with tax-exempt contributions to his campaign, approaching half a billion dollars.

2008 Obama In response to ABC News, Obama tells a national TV audience he was “six years old” when Ayers bombed federal buildings, and they are only casual neighborhood acquaintances. A lie.

Even though we have finally started piecing the puzzle together, we continue to investigate. For example, where in Chicago did Barack Obama live in 1985-1988? Help if you have an address.

Because we are still assembling all of the pieces to the Ayers-Obama puzzle, feel free to submit suggestions, additions to the timeline or other information that you believe may be helpful. We will publish updated/corrected versions


19 posted on 10/07/2008 2:44:50 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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Now look, anyone who gave five seconds of thought to that passage smelled a rat. Ayers and Dohrn are passionate radical activists who lived as fugitives for a decade. There’s no way they held a political coming-out party for someone who was unknown to them. Obviously, they already knew him well enough by then to feel very comfortable. They might have been sympathetic to a relative stranger, but sponsoring such a gathering in one’s living room is a strong endorsement.

Ya know, that's a great point I'd never thought about. Just exactly HOW long did Hussein know Ayers?

20 posted on 10/07/2008 2:45:22 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: vrwc54; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; LucyT; Arthur Wildfire! March; Jeff Head; Beckwith; ...
Wayne Allyn Root's Million-Dollar Challenge: The Libertarian VP candidate wants Barack Obama to release his grades

Root: I don't know! I didn't know him. I don't think anybody knew him. But I know that the guy who writes the class notes, who's kind of the, as we say in New York, the macha who knows everybody, has yet to find a person, a human who ever met him. Is that not strange? It's very strange.


23 posted on 10/07/2008 2:49:22 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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In the fall of 1988, however, Obama left the city to go off to law school. My best guess, though, is that it was in that 86-88 time frame that Obama likely met up with the Ayers family. I will explain why I believe that in a minute. Interestingly, after his first year in law school Obama returned in the summer of 1989 to work as a summer associate at the prestigious Chicago law firm of Sidley & Austin. This in and of itself is a bit unusual. Very few top tier law students work for big law firms during their first summer. The big law firms discourage it because if you work for them in the first summer you are likely to work for a second firm the following year and then the firms have to compete to get you.

So, why or how did Obama - at that point not yet the prominent first black president of the Harvard Law Review (that would happen the following year) - end up at Sidley?

Sidley had been long time outside counsel to Commonwealth Edison. The senior Sidley partner who was Comm Ed’s key outside counsel, Howard Trienens, was a member of the board of trustees of Northwestern alongside Tom Ayers (and Sidley partner Newton Minow, too). It turns out, Bernardine Dohrn worked at Sidley also. She was hired there in the late 80s, because of the intervention of her father-in-law Tom Ayers, even though she was (and is) not a member of any state bar.

Dohrn was not admitted in either NY or Illinois because of her past jail time for refusing to testify about the murderous 1981 Brinks robbery in which her former Weather Underground (now recast as the “Revolutionary Armed Task Force”) “comrades,” including Kathy Boudin (biological mother of Chesa Boudin, who was raised by Ayers and Dohrn) participated. She was finally paroled after serving 22 years of a plea bargained single 20-to-life sentence for her role in the robbery where a guard was shot and killed and two police officers were killed. The father of Chesa Boudin, David Gilbert, was sentenced to 75-to-life, with no chance of parole, after a trial in which he refused to participate. Chesa is the co-author of a recent apologia for the regime of Venezuelan “left” strong man, Hugo Chavez.

Trienens recently explained his unusual decision to hire Dohrn, who had never practice law and had graduated from law school (before going on her bombing spree) 17 years before in 1967) to The Chicago Tribune saying, “[W]e sometimes hire friends.”

I can only speculate, but it is possible that Tom Ayers introduced Obama to Sidley. That might have happened if Obama had met up with Bill and Tom and John Ayers prior to attending law school when Obama’s DCP group was supporting the reform act passed in 1988. Or it might have been Dohrn who introduced Obama to the law firm. Dohrn’s CV indicates that she left Sidley sometime in 1988 for public interest work prior to starting a position at Northwestern (again, hired there by some accounts because of the influence of Tom Ayers and his Sidley counsel Howard Trienens). Obama and Dohrn would likely not have been at the firm at the same time, although if Obama and Dohrn met before Obama left to attend Harvard Law School, she might have discussed the firm with him and introduced him to lawyers there.

My best guess, though, is that it would have been Tom Ayers who introduced Obama to Sidley and that would have helped him get the attention of someone like Newton Minow. And that would have come in very handy later in Obama’s career as Kaufman suggests.

(Recently I heard from Nell Minow, daughter of Newton Minow, who tells me her sister Martha, a Harvard law professor, had Obama as a student at HLS and that she called her father to tell him about Obama. While Nell contends on the basis of this anecdote that her family met and supported Obama before he met Bill Ayers, she was unable to provide me any evidence of when in fact Obama met Ayers, either Bill or Tom.)

In any case the summer of 1989 was eventful for Obama as he did meet his future wife, Michelle, there, already a lawyer and working as a Sidley associate. Michelle was Obama’s first supervisor or mentor there. Obama went back to Harvard in the fall of 1989 where, of course, he became president of the law review in the spring of 1990. After graduation in 1991 he went back to Chicago to run a voter registration campaign... http://globallabor.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-sent-obama.html


25 posted on 10/07/2008 2:51:26 PM PDT by anglian
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Yes, Ayers is blunter than Obama. As he so delicately told the Times, America makes him “want to puke.” The smoother Obama is content to say our society needs fundamental “change.” But what they’re talking about is not materially different.

There are two fallacies there that add up to a cheap shot.

"Change" isn't necessarily "fundamental change," and saying you want changes in something doesn't mean that it disgusts you.

But if Obama had been close to Ayers at Columbia wouldn't more people have remembered him as "that radical guy"?

Someone who went to Columbia in the 1930s might have been recruited by the Communist Party or the Soviet Union and kept his convictions hidden, but it's quite a stretch to argue that Obama became Ayers's "mole" in the 1980s.

26 posted on 10/07/2008 3:02:55 PM PDT by x
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On a questionnaire Obama filled out during his first state senate run, was this gem:

Biographical sketch -- ...five years working as community organizer, first in Harlem, then in Chicago.

When did Obama organize in Harlem and who did he organize?

Was this what he was doing when he claimed to be at Columbia University? Why is it that no one remembers ever seeing him at Columbia? Why is there no picture of him in the yearbook?
28 posted on 10/07/2008 3:06:41 PM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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Great article! McCarthy absolutely nails Obama.

But will anybody listen or are half the voters in this country bound a determined to turn the USA over to a Communist?

Remember, most people under the age of 30 don't remember much about Communism. They were in grade school when the Soviet Union collapsed and since then they have been mostly indoctrinated in American public education.

30 posted on 10/07/2008 3:06:52 PM PDT by Gritty (Other than Obama's charisma and teleprompter talent, everything screams "Red Alert!"-Don Feder)
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To: vrwc54

Thanks for posting this. Excellent article.


34 posted on 10/07/2008 3:14:41 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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Mayabe the SOB never got a diploma from anywhere or even passed the frickin Illinois
bar exam.


36 posted on 10/07/2008 3:16:50 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
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his good friends at the New York Times, who’ve so reliably helped him bleach away his past


42 posted on 10/07/2008 3:32:41 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood (Odinga is the new Ayers.)
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