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To: Harley

The “natural born” requirement though is met by his mother being clearly... an American citizen at the time of his birth. So, wherever he was born is moot, really...

HOWEVER, his father is Kenyan, so he also was born with Kenyan citizenship. (If he was born in Kenya, this doesn’t change). So, he was a dual citizen.

Furthermore, upon his adoption by Mr. Soetoro, Barry Soetoro became an Indonesian citizen, too.

A child’s citizenship is not “locked” until adulthood. So, at that point, Barack needed to file both the Certification of Citizenship to make clear his being borne of an American citizen... and then needed to renounce his Kenyan and Indonesian citizenships by way of the Oath of Allegiance.

It’s just State Department paperwork... but he should have taken care of that when he was 18, not now.

If he NEVER has... this gets interesting: his filings with the FEC are thus fraudulent: only the POTUS has this clear citizenship requirement, and he doesn’t meet it.

IN THIS regard, the suit has merit.

Keep these details in mind.


117 posted on 10/01/2008 9:03:44 PM PDT by sturmde
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To: sturmde

BTTT!!


123 posted on 10/01/2008 9:12:02 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton - 'Denali' is Palin's SS nickname)
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To: sturmde

“The “natural born” requirement though is met by his mother being clearly... an American citizen at the time of his birth. So, wherever he was born is moot, really...”

You are quite incorrect. His mother was too young under the law at that time, so if he was born outside the USA, Barry is clearly not eligible to be POTUS.


151 posted on 10/01/2008 9:41:21 PM PDT by devere
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To: sturmde

Then, if he was born in Kenya, why would he hide it? That makes no sense.

I notice in the exhibits, exhibit #3 says that they have located a birth certificate for Barry in Kenya. Where is that?! I want to see it, but I can not find the exhibit. Surely they wouldn’t go all the way to Kenya and not take a photo of said Birth Cert?


153 posted on 10/01/2008 9:42:36 PM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Those who hammer their guns into plows, will plow for those who don't.' ~)
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To: sturmde
"The “natural born” requirement though is met by his mother being clearly... an American citizen at the time of his birth. So, wherever he was born is moot, really..."

That is totally incorrect.

The laws on the books at the time of Obama’s birth clearly
state that if a child is born abroad and one parent
is a U.S. citizen, that parent has to have resided in
the U.S. for 10 years five (5) of which are after the age
of fourteen (14).

That would require Obama’s mother Srtanley Ann Dunham to
be twenty (20) years old at the time of Mr. Obama’s birth.

Ms. Dunham was not. She was 18.

Ms Dunham did not meet the residency requirements at the
time of Mr. Obama’s birth per Section 301(a)(7) of the
Immigration and Nationality act of June 27th, 1952
66 statute 163, 235, 8 U.S.C. 1401(b).

165 posted on 10/01/2008 10:44:45 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: sturmde

http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=51&Itemid=80

See: Section 301(a)(7)
“Section 201. The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

“(g) A person born outside the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, has had ten years’ residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, at least five of which were after attaining the age of sixteen years, the other being an alien: Provided, That in order to retain such citizenship, the child must reside in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling five years between the ages of thirteen and twenty-one years: Provided further, That, if the child has not taken up a residence in the United States or its outlying possessions by the time he reaches the age of sixteen years, or if he resides abroad for such a time that it becomes impossible for him to complete the five years’ residence in the United States or its outlying possessions before reaching the age of twenty-one years, his American citizenship shall thereupon cease.

(h) The foregoing provisions of subsection (g) concerning retention of citizenship shall apply to a child born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934.”

1952 The Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27, 1952, 66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S. Code Section 1401 (b). (Section 301 of the Act).

“Section 301. (a) The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

“(1) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

“(7) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States, who prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.


171 posted on 10/01/2008 10:54:33 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: sturmde

His mother was not five years a resident of the U.S. after her 18th birthday when he was born (was it PRIOR TO her 18th? Not sure.) so that legal requirement was NOT met. So if he was born in Kenya, he DOES NOT meet the requirements of the Constitution. Point is HARDLY moot.


187 posted on 10/02/2008 12:11:40 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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