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Washington Post Claims McCain Wildly Exaggerated D-Day, says Soviets better
washington post ^ | 9.28.08 | Michael Dobbs

Posted on 09/28/2008 12:40:20 PM PDT by meandog

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To: meandog

The Washington Post has a long running affection for the Soviet Empire. When it was argued that America had given more lives in combat service to other countries, the Post came out with an editorial denoting the Soviet sacrifices in WWII far exceeded the American casualty count. Ergo, we should see the Soviet Stalin as the great sacrificial humanitarian not any American president.

Its amazing that these things called newspapers still publish.


21 posted on 09/28/2008 12:55:24 PM PDT by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: meandog
A total of 326,000 allied troops took part in the initial D-day Landings in June 1944. By comparison, Hitler's sent an army of 4.5 million men into the Soviet Union in June 1941 along a 1,800 mile front.

He even got his facts wrong. Overlord was a 2.8 million man operation. Barbarossa was 3 million. So numerically, it was pretty close. But McCain didn't say "largest," although it was probably that too, once nonhuman elements (ships,planes, all kinds of supplies) are factored in.

22 posted on 09/28/2008 12:57:47 PM PDT by squidly
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To: meandog
OK, Washington Post. By your standard, the Wall Street Journal is the greatest American newspaper.
23 posted on 09/28/2008 12:58:10 PM PDT by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: meandog
Wasn't Obama’s uncle in Operation Barbarossa?
24 posted on 09/28/2008 12:58:39 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Amazing how Obama, Rangel, Biden and Dodd all got killer mortgage rates and below cost property.)
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To: meandog
Uh, he's a Navy man. So if it doesn't involve water and ships it doesn't count.

Everybody knows what McCain meant. He was talking about amphibious operations.

25 posted on 09/28/2008 12:59:51 PM PDT by x
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

How did that nazi invasion of Russia turn out anyhow?

I think McCain was making reference to a successful invasion.


26 posted on 09/28/2008 12:59:56 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: meandog

It is however, worth remembering that during the D-Day landings, the allies had total air and naval superiority and they were fighting against forces that were for the most part, the dregs of the German Army. Those too old, ill, or green to fight on the Eastern Front, which was the front which had top priority for the Nazis. Both the Germans and the Russians were throwing the best they had at each other....


27 posted on 09/28/2008 1:00:39 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: meandog

WAPO: “Hitler did it better”

bah


28 posted on 09/28/2008 1:01:21 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: neodad
Both Barbarossa and the Soviet couterattack would have failed utterly if attempted in anywhere from 180 to 30 feet of water.

The Posties know that (one must presume).

29 posted on 09/28/2008 1:02:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: meandog

Easily the greatest seaborne invasion in history, which is more of less implied.

They left out Jengis Khan overruning New Haven on Christmas Day 1968, while President Reagan lied to the American people about weapons of mass destruction in Nazi Germany, as Joe Biden would be glad to point out.


30 posted on 09/28/2008 1:02:22 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans.)
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To: silverleaf
I've had to deal with the likes of Michael Dobbs before. They memorize obscure historical minutiae. Then they weave them into their bizarre observations, proclaimed as infallible and uttered to impress the slack-jawed bimbos on the DC cocktail party circuit. I believe certain members of my family would have words with this man... Photobucket
31 posted on 09/28/2008 1:02:31 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (Will Work for Ammo)
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To: Perdogg

It (the Normandy invasion) would have been dwarfed by Olympic and Downfall, the operations planned for the invasion of Japan in late 1945 and early 1946, but fortunately for all concerned, President Truman rendered those invasions moot through the use of advanced technology.


32 posted on 09/28/2008 1:03:33 PM PDT by reg45
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To: meandog
OMG, is the WAPooh-pot nuts??? What idiots they truly are.
33 posted on 09/28/2008 1:03:38 PM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: meandog
D-Day was one of the most critical operations of WWII. This is hardly arguable.

McCain brought it up only as context for the story of General Eisenhower writing two letters the night before the invasion. One praising the valor of the troops (to be read if the operation were successful) and one resigning his command, should the mission fail, which was quite possible. McCain used this as an illustration of accountability, something he lamented had been lost with most in government 'service' as well as in private business. I can't argue with him.

The Washington CommiePost ignored McCain's broader point (accountability) in order to nitpick about the size of the Normandy invasion. Petty and transparently antagonistic. I can't wait until these lefty dinosaur rags finally go out of business from lack of readers and advertisers for their vacuous twaddle.

34 posted on 09/28/2008 1:04:09 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Never, never, never give up! - Winston Churchill)
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To: neodad

The Russian operation was not a military invasion. It was part of a continuing follow-up campaign of pursuit of fleeing forces characterized by both armies having been in constant contact.

D-Day was an invasion, characterized by the need to establish a beachhead in an enemy-fortified mainland in which one goes from no contact with the enemy to immediate contact. Literally, they went from zero presence to a huge beachhead in the matter of a month.


35 posted on 09/28/2008 1:05:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain Opposing -> ZerObama: zero executive, military, or international experience)
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To: meandog

And no doubt The Post will find evidence that D-Day wasn’t also “The Longest Day.”

Anything to bash America, past or present.


36 posted on 09/28/2008 1:06:23 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: meandog

I’m sure the author sent off a nasty letter to Tom Brokaw demanding that he change the title of his book:

“To the attention of Mr. Brokaw:

In the interests of accuracy, I strongly recommend that you change the title of your recent book The Greatest Generation.

Statistically, the generation of children born between 1980 and 1990 was the largest ever recorded, so therefore the title of your book is inaccurate and must be changed.

Very Truly Yours,
Michael Dobbs,
Dimbulb-without-portfolio,
Washingtonpost.com”


37 posted on 09/28/2008 1:06:31 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("[Obama acts] as if the very idea of permanent truth is passe, a form of bad taste"-Shelby Steele)
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To: meandog

Michael Dobbs:

Why don’t you get your “patriotic” pal Nine Percent Nancy to continue her Hiroshima tour and visit the graveyards of Normandy?

Then get back with us, ok?


38 posted on 09/28/2008 1:09:10 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat
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To: squidly
He even got his facts wrong. Overlord was a 2.8 million man operation. Barbarossa was 3 million. So numerically, it was pretty close. But McCain didn't say "largest," although it was probably that too, once nonhuman elements (ships,planes, all kinds of supplies) are factored in.

Thanks for fact-checking the fact-checker...He seems to want to point out that Hitler's 3 million also went in to Russia in one felled swoop...

39 posted on 09/28/2008 1:09:18 PM PDT by meandog (please pray for future President McCain, day minus 130-Jan. 20--and counting)))
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To: meandog

Pravda on the Potomac shoots itself in the foot once again.


40 posted on 09/28/2008 1:09:53 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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