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1 posted on 09/28/2008 5:14:03 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Lady Warnock, a prominent adviser to the British government, told the Church of Scotland's Life and Work magazine that people suffering from dementia should be allowed to kill themselves rather than continue to burden their families and Britain's National Health Service. Sadly, Warnock's comments are all too consistent with our modern utilitarian view of life.

And the "modern utilitarian view of life" is a direct outcome of putting health care under the aegis of government and taxes.

When the only way you can cut taxes going to a wasteful bureaucracy is by killing people or allowing them die, then people will be killed or allowed to die.

2 posted on 09/28/2008 5:16:07 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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Do the Demented Have a Duty to Die?

Um, let me think about this for a moment......

....Yeah, they do.

3 posted on 09/28/2008 5:28:01 AM PDT by Leisler
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To: Kaslin

Nothing better that visions of ‘Logan’s Run’ for breakfast.
So the demented have a duty to die. Maybe it would be easier to do away with those over 50. They have a much higher rate of disease. Well, how about 40? Very few breeders, lots of aches and pains. Hey, how about 30....?

(btw. I’m nearly 48.)


4 posted on 09/28/2008 5:28:09 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Hope is not a strategy, change is not a destination.)
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To: Kaslin

She’s not heavy (or a burden) - she’s my mother.


5 posted on 09/28/2008 5:40:43 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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Do the Demented Have a Duty to Die?

That'd pretty much empty out Congress.

6 posted on 09/28/2008 5:44:40 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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She needs to have tea with former Colorado Gov, “Duty to Die,”
Dick Lamm.

No one on the planet has peddled more death (he passed the nation’s first
abortion law.)

Joined by George Soros, who put in place all the laws to allow starvation/dehydration of the gravely ill and disabled, and you’d
have a truly satanic trifecta - tete a tete.


7 posted on 09/28/2008 5:54:09 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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To: Kaslin
I'm curious.

Do any Freepers truly hope or wish that their lives end before they succumb to dementia? And if there was a way,consistent with each person's conscience, to at list tip the scales to ensure that it happens, would anyone take that way?

As an example: to take up base jumping, where each jumper packs their own chute, and where there is no time for a reserve chute to open - if done on a regular basis, a deterioration of memory would catch up very quickly.

Again, just curious.

8 posted on 09/28/2008 6:08:44 AM PDT by Castlebar
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It is morally wrong, but would cause a decline in liberalism.
12 posted on 09/28/2008 6:16:56 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: Kaslin

Society will be measured by the manner in which it treats the weakest of its citizens. And this definitely includes those with dementia.


14 posted on 09/28/2008 6:32:14 AM PDT by hershey
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I think she was making the point that a person could sign an agreement requesting life not be continued after certain set of deterioration is met.

My father-in-law developed dementia in his early 80’s. My husband and I spent three years visiting him in a lockdown unit for dementia sufferers in a nursing home. All I know is that he would have hated what he became. We saw several people in that unit slowly descend to a state in which they ended up bedridden, sleeping most of the day and not interested in anyone or anything. My father-in-law’s case reminded me of someone whose brain was dead, but his body was on life support since he continued to receive blood pressure meds, heart medications, etc.

Maybe someone would not have to sign an agreement authorizing euthansia when certain criteria are met, but I would certainly sign something that provided I receive no medication to prolong my life after a certain point.

After one of our depressing visits I asked my husband what I should do if he developed dementia. He told me to put him in a car, put a rock on the accelerator and send him over a cliff.

I am only relating our personal experience and I realize it probably will not be a popular view on this board.


15 posted on 09/28/2008 6:34:34 AM PDT by MRobert (MRobert)
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To: Kaslin
I love you forever
I love you for always
As long as I'm living
My baby you'll be ...

When the "system" becomes more important that the people the system serves, then its the system that needs to be allowed to dissolve and be replaced by a new system.

For those that have relatives that are suffering from Alzheimer's Disease, please consider helping by joining the FReeper Folding@home team.

About 200 FReepers run F@H consistently, and the work has already contributed to over 55 published and peer reviewed papers helping to advance basic research in Alzheimer's Disease, Parkinson's Disease, Huntington's Disease and many others.

We would love your participation in memory of a loved one, in hope for one currently passing through its dark tunnels or in anticipation that each of us could be susceptible to its ravages.

17 posted on 09/28/2008 6:39:48 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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18 posted on 09/28/2008 6:44:28 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Kaslin

Tell her to go first. Maybe others will be inspired by her act. /sarcasm


21 posted on 09/28/2008 6:48:16 AM PDT by comps4spice (Democrats caused the current financial mess. Do we really want to give them the Oval Office?)
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To: Kaslin

Sure, liberals should off themselves.


25 posted on 09/28/2008 7:43:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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ping


28 posted on 09/28/2008 8:27:50 AM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)| The New WSJ Magazine is disgusting)
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To: Kaslin
Let her get hit on the head or get in a car accident and not have her brain working for a while. She'll experience the silent scream as they come with the big needle to put her away.

I don't think she'll like a taste of her own medicine.

29 posted on 09/28/2008 9:33:25 AM PDT by pray4liberty (The Lord is on the side of the truly righteous.)
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When I read this, I think back to the 1960 when I helped identify likely subjects for a “Living History” project where UA students would interview elderly Arizonans for the Arizona State Museum in Tucson. I knew several older folks with knowledge of Southwest history who, in turn, identified others. Among those I talked to were people with memories of the Arizona Ranger, the Battle of Agua Prieta, the Bisbee Deportation, fighting alongside Pancho Villa, the Statehood Celebrations, and daily life in the Arizona and New Mexico Territories. Most of these people suffered from some degree of dementia — usually short term memory problems. Many would have good days and bad days. It is doubtful many of them would have survived a strictly utilitarian reckoning. Sad what some would deprive the world of.
30 posted on 09/28/2008 9:36:43 AM PDT by JimSEA (just another liberal-bashing fearmonger)
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To: Kaslin

Do the demented have a duty to die?

Good question.

If the answer is “Yes”, then American will be exceeding short of Democrats.


37 posted on 09/28/2008 5:34:56 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Kaslin; Lesforlife
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


40 posted on 09/29/2008 4:05:56 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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