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1 posted on 09/26/2008 2:30:10 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Did you notice they called it a “false” rumor? A rumor is a rumor. Who is this writer to determine if it’s a falsity or a truth-s-tude.


28 posted on 09/26/2008 2:49:44 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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Did you notice they called it a “false” rumor? A rumor is a rumor. Who is this writer to determine if it’s a falsity or a truth-a-tude.


29 posted on 09/26/2008 2:49:59 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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As long as they don’ t vote for that son of a burka clad camel, I couldn’t care less what they think he is.

They could believe he followed Odin One-eye and I would say more power to them as long as they know he’s a dangerous piece of garbage and act accordingly.


32 posted on 09/26/2008 2:56:50 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg ("Shut the hell up, New York Times, you sanctimonious whining jerks!" - Craig Ferguson)
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With the many anti-Christians in this country, Obama’s faith may be an asset for him.


34 posted on 09/26/2008 2:59:29 PM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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No he isn’t, however, according to A) an American Thinker article today, and confirmed by B) a friend of mine who is East African, “Obama” is the Swahili form of “Osama.”

Is that not wierd? A guy named Barack Hussein Osama runs for president, 7 years after 9/11.


37 posted on 09/26/2008 3:04:45 PM PDT by cookcounty ("A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why the ship is built." ---Governor Sarah Palin)
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He may not be a muslim, but he has palled around with terrorists. He even sat on a board with one, and handed out $100 million, without improving the education of Chicago’s kids an iota. Now that is probably considered valuble “experience” in Thugville, but nowhere else.


39 posted on 09/26/2008 3:09:19 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Obama is the anti-Reagan, instead of opposing the world's tyrants, he wants to embrace them)
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He is as Muslim as he is Caucasian.


41 posted on 09/26/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by philled ("Pacifism ... can only be preached behind the protective cover of the Royal Navy."-- Orwell)
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Well, that’s not as bad as the 45 to 50% of voters nationwide, who say that Obambi is qualified to be POTUS.


43 posted on 09/26/2008 3:12:44 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Phodopus campbelli: household ruler since July 2007.)
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bump with no comment.


45 posted on 09/26/2008 3:21:23 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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They may well be right. I make the odds about even money that the chickenboy really is a closet moslem. Joining the UCC whorehouse does not make one a Christian, by any stretch.
46 posted on 09/26/2008 3:25:19 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Isn’t it the matter of 80% of voters still believe Obama’s “False denials” that he is a mohammedan.

When the press speaks of “false rumors” they are indicating their bias.


47 posted on 09/26/2008 3:25:42 PM PDT by joshhiggins
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The "false rumor" is that he is a practicing Muslim; or, conversely, that he is not a Muslim sympathizer.

Legally, under Shari'a, he IS a Muslim; and perhaps an apostate, or perhaps a takiya 'stealth Muslim'.

We'll know for sure if he converts reverts to Calypso Louise's fold next year.

Remember that he & Michele say they won't pick a 'new church' until after the inauguration.

48 posted on 09/26/2008 3:25:54 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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WV’s know the truth when they see it. He may not be Muslim, but he sure isn’t a Christian either. He’s a fascist.


52 posted on 09/26/2008 3:34:13 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray every day for McCains, Palins and the USA...and the rest of us, too.)
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Perhaps he is, perhaps he’s not. Regardless, he is far more dangerous to our country than any Muslim terrorist.


54 posted on 09/26/2008 3:35:48 PM PDT by Gator113 (Drill here, drill now...... or die.)
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I would like to point out something that may not be obvious.

The voters who say Obama is a Muslim may at least in part be correct.

Christians tend to have an “either/or” opinion of religion that is often not shared outside of Christianity. Either you are a Christian or you are not, and either you belong to a particular sect of Christianity or you do not. Importantly, you are what you say you are, for all intents and purposes, except administratively.

Judaism, on the other hand, can be confusing, and even to Jews, who often ask the (rhetorical) question, “What is a Jew?”

In the case of Jews, their “Jewishness” is a complex blend of religious, ethnic, sectarian, cultural, matriarchal, and the acceptance or rejection by other Jews. A person cannot just declare themselves to be a Jew, though many try, oddly enough.

So what about Muslims? Even trickier. This is because to a great extent, Muslims see Islam as less a formal religion than a state of being. The very word “Islam” means “submission”, and that is what Islam means to most Muslims. While chock full of ritual and other trappings, Islam is seen as an all-encompassing lifestyle, in which, if you are a Muslim, you worship Allah as a Muslim, and if you don’t, you are an “infidel”, an “un-faithful”.

So Muslims see Islam as the only religion. All other religions are just ignorant people who are nothing, because they are not Muslims. And very importantly, once you are a Muslim, you cannot, literally, stop being a Muslim. To do so is to renounce God and become an atheist.

If you show a picture of Obama as a young man wearing a turban to Muslims, they will say he is, now, a Muslim. This is the case because he once was a Muslim, and once a Muslim, always a Muslim. Muslims reject that anyone can ever quit Islam. To say that you are no longer a Muslim is meaningless to them.

In this way, Muslims think of people as they think of land. Once Muslim, land may be occupied by non-Muslims, to the shame of Muslims, but it is, and will forever remain, Muslim land. The same rule applies to people. Once they have embraced Islam, even to a tiny degree, they are forever Muslims, no matter what they say later.

Even during the early Crusades, when a Muslim knight captured a Christian knight, he might offer him a choice: Be killed, or just say “Allah Akbar” (accept Islam as their faith), and not only live, but be let go. Of course the Christians would be fighting them the next day, so this didn’t last long. But it shows how easily one could “become” a Muslim forever, in the eyes of Muslims.

So Obama may attend a Christian church (or at least one that passes as a Christian church), and he may call himself a Christian, but to Muslims, he is, and for the rest of his life will remain, a Muslim.

And while we cannot divine the truth in his heart, which is likely far more secular-atheist-leftist-socialist than religious in any way, it truly isn’t unfair to think of Obama as a Muslim. The big question that should be asked, however, is “Does Obama favor the American people more than he favors non-Americans?”

This is the real question. And the answer, based on what Obama has said in past, is that in truth, he may not. He may not put America and Americans first. And he may support some Americans far more than he supports other Americans, to the point of great unfairness.

So what his in his heart remains unknown. We must though be concerned, very concerned, what his actions might be if elected. For it doesn’t matter if he is a Muslim as much as if he acts like it.


55 posted on 09/26/2008 3:37:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Why don’t 5 out of 5 understand that he is a Muslim?

He said it in a TV interview with George Step-in-awful-stuff.


57 posted on 09/26/2008 3:45:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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1 in 5 WV voters are right!!!!


60 posted on 09/26/2008 4:01:46 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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Eheh, well Obama himself claims to a Muslim one in five times too, so I guess this isn’t a surprise.


63 posted on 09/26/2008 4:45:18 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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