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1 posted on 09/24/2008 1:16:37 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Just keep making places where anyone who wants to use a gun for a crime know where to victimize people who do not have one accessible.

Back in the 80’s my church had a guy come in during service and he shot several before subdued. Of those that remember it I’d venture that about 1 in 5 now carry in church.

I carry everywhere including picking my kids up at school. Key phrases to remember “concealed”, “better to have it and not need it...”, “better judged by 12 than carried by 6”.


2 posted on 09/24/2008 1:21:05 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Daffynition

Any owner of private property, whether churches, bars, shopping malls, or sports venues has the absolute right to bar weapons from their premises. While I’m all for CCW, I think to be consistent constitutionally you have to be all for the rights of property owners.


3 posted on 09/24/2008 1:23:10 PM PDT by DryFly
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To: Daffynition

Obama’s horror. People bitterly clinging to their guns AND God at the same time !


4 posted on 09/24/2008 1:29:41 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Daffynition
"Churches, synagogues and communities of faith should be protected places.."

AKA target rich environments for psychopathic killers.

6 posted on 09/24/2008 1:35:31 PM PDT by Jaxter (Everything I needed to know about Obama I learned by Googling "Black Liberation Theology".)
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To: Daffynition
These priests and pastors just don't get it. Piety alone is no protection from someone hell-bent on violence and mayhem. It's like that shootout in the church in Colorado last year didn't register at all.

It just burns me up when these people put religious dogma ahead of reality and common sense.

Oh yeah, I regularly carry when I go to church. Nobody knows it, so don't tell anyone, okay?

12 posted on 09/24/2008 1:48:15 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: Daffynition

I am all right with guns being most everywhere, as long as it is in public. If a church does not want guns on its premises, it is not up to the government to demand that they permit it, either.

Corporations shouldn’t be able to generally exclude gun owning employees, though, except as an immediate safety risk.

Heck, a know a bunch of otherwise nice people that I wouldn’t let bring a gun into my house, either. I know a lot who I would, but that’s not the point.

Don’t want any guns in the MRI lab. But then again, I don’t want any magnetic metal in the MRI lab at all.

I knew of a judge who frequently gave court orders to women with violent ex-boyfriends and husbands, that they *had* to be armed in public. And that’s good too. He noted that after he started doing this, violent assaults against those women dropped to zero.

And finally, I prefer CC to open carry, because I think it matters far less what a violent criminal thinks, than what a violent criminal knows. That is, I care less if an open carry weapon makes him think he better not try it on right then; than that he is unaware that a CC holder has drawn down on him and he is about to become air conditioned.


13 posted on 09/24/2008 1:50:44 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Daffynition
"Churches, synagogues and communities of faith should be protected places,"

Indeed - just like anywhere else that carry is allowed. Despite the classic sentiment, God doesn't give some buildings special protections just because we think He should.

15 posted on 09/24/2008 1:51:35 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The average piece of junk is more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. - Ratatouille)
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To: Daffynition
If Jesus were around today, you can bet your ass that he'd be packing some heat:


19 posted on 09/24/2008 2:06:48 PM PDT by Riodacat (Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus.)
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To: Daffynition

I’d love for some Conservatives to run for and win elected office in NYC. Another massive Liberal stronghold of all sorts.


20 posted on 09/24/2008 2:10:04 PM PDT by wastedyears (Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
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"Churches, synagogues and communities of faith should be protected places," Pastor Bradley Schmeling, of St. John's Lutheran Church in Atlanta, said. He and others pointed to deadly shootings at churches in recent years.

Perhaps Pastor Schmeling should google "Jeanne Assam," then politely exit stage right. Most of the Lutherans at my church would certainly disagree with him.

On a side, somewhat related note, I watched Stars in My Crown on TCM on Monday. Fantastic movie; a conservative's dream movie. Joel McCrea is a preacher who carries two guns on himself and takes no nonsense from anybody in the town. He transforms his town for the better, bringing doubters to God and tackling injustice, but he does it not with his guns, but with his strong faith, prayers, good deeds, and fine example.

Seriously, watch this movie if you can get a hold of it. I don't think it's on dvd unfortunately. At least look for it on TCM in the future and tape it. I should have. Just a wonderfully inspiring movie.
21 posted on 09/24/2008 2:16:02 PM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: lightman

ping (note what Atlanta pastor is quoted)


29 posted on 09/24/2008 5:24:22 PM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Daffynition

/celebration song plays
Well... maybe not. My campus is private and I don’t see them agreeing to this. I mean they almost threw my roommate out of the school for having a knife (smaller than three inches).

But they do allow they to hunt twice a year to thin out the population so who know. All I know is my state rep. is getting a note from me!


30 posted on 09/24/2008 5:31:46 PM PDT by Toki
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To: Daffynition; glock rocks

My brother in law told me of the first services they had in a bombed out Church in France a few weeks after D Day and it was required to keep their weapons with them or face court martial...


33 posted on 09/24/2008 7:53:05 PM PDT by tubebender (Now buying tag lines. Please apply within...)
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To: Daffynition
It is currently illegal to carry a gun into a house of worship. A trio of religious leaders told the lawmakers they want it to remain that way.

Attention Worshipers: Forensic clean up on aisle 2.

Churches have been open season for how many years. Back when Christian were thrown to lions with no defense, what is different now? All these little limp wristed preachers want peace, even if it means sacrificing their parishioners.

Since when does a person's God-given rights end at the sanctuary doors? Nice to know the "religious leaders" are the biggest suppororters of the seperation of church and state, particularly that the GOD GIVEN rights of the people do not apply in church.

38 posted on 09/25/2008 7:10:29 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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