[Perdogg]

sorry, are there votes outside of Wayne to offset the democrat support in Wayne?

[Darren McCarty]

Wayne County is the top county in the state for the democrats. About 45% of Wayne County is Detroit. It will go for Obama, the question is by how much. At best, I think McCain can cut the losses there to about 300,000. In 2004, Bush lost Wayne County by 340,000 votes.

Bush lost Michigan by 165,000 votes out of almost 5 million votes. Wayne County delivered 870,000 of those votes. If McCain can win Oakland narrowly and take a 20,000 vote win in Macomb County, and either win or tie in the Flint, Saginaw, and Bay City areas by taking some of those blue collar democrat suburbs, he'll win.