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1 posted on 09/19/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT by Mershon
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Randall Terry isn’t even Catholic. Our churches are not generally available for public use for peoples causes, even good ones. I’ve always thought he is a misguided fool and this cements that view.


2 posted on 09/19/2008 11:15:22 AM PDT by Jack Black
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Randall Terry isn’t even Catholic. Our churches are not generally available for public use for peoples causes, even good ones. I’ve always thought he is a misguided fool and this cements that view.


3 posted on 09/19/2008 11:15:26 AM PDT by Jack Black
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I agree with Terry 100%. If you read the "official" voting guides coming out of the USCCB and some Archdiocese, they intentionally confuse the issues and give cover to those that choose to vote Dem.

I took the voting guide from Catholic Answers called "Voting Guide for Serious Catholics" and paired it to the party platforms here. My greatest critique of the Church right now is their refusal to name names. What good does it do to hold a rally for life and then have half of the congregation vote for the very people promoting abortion?!

It's a bit like the war on terror... you don't make war on an ideology, you make war on the people who implement the ideology. Just so, you don't fight abortion, you fight the people who are entrenching abortion in our society.

5 posted on 09/19/2008 11:20:32 AM PDT by pgyanke (Public "servants" have decided it's their job to use the public's money to fight the public)
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Sad and revolting that the Catholic Church would refuse to stand with pro-life folks even if it meant losing their so-called tax exempt status.

Many are called but few are chosen.

6 posted on 09/19/2008 11:20:35 AM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the hell out of the way!)
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Several years ago, I helped pass out literature one Sunday morning but was bothered when we went to one of the most affluent Catholic churches, into the parking lot, and put literature under windshield wipers. I couldn't understand why we were targeting a Catholic church because I thought all Catholics knew abortion was a grave sin. I was a new Catholic then and a little naive.

We also walked up to houses and tucked the literature into doors, being careful not to put it in the mailbox because I did know that was against the law.

I didn't consider that I might be breaking the law but pictured an irate priest coming out and a confrontation. Nothing happened, but it was very similar to this article.

If I ever do it again, I would rather say on the public sidewalk. The man I worked with gave me a complimentary subscription to the Wanderer for 6 months.

I've not been active in the pro life movement other than vocal but not judgemental with people who cross my path when the subject comes up.

The only other thing I ever did was ask a priest to bless a Miraculous Medal, then took it to a large, vacant lot in a rather affuent area and buried it in the snow and grass as best I could because I knew a PP clinic was in the works to be built there. I just did that on my own. That clinic was built there and has been operational for several years now. Most local abortions are performed there. I often wonder why the medal didn't seem to work nor were our countless prayers answered to thwart that building.

8 posted on 09/19/2008 11:35:52 AM PDT by Aliska
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Misleading headline. As I scan the article, they were arrested for trespassing, not for passing out literature.


10 posted on 09/19/2008 12:06:55 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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I think this is a bogus issue. My ears always perk up when I hear the line "I was only doing" such-and-such, coupled with the old innocent act.

It is against subsidiarity and it is imprudent for the Catholic Church (or any congregation which is not predominantly black)to endorse a party or a candidate.

What they can do is lay out the teaching on abortion clearly, emphasizing the culpability of aiding in the procuring of abortions, they can admit that it is at least intellectually possible that an anti-abortion candidate might otherwise be so far off base that it just might conceivably be possible that it was better to vote for the pro-abort politician. And then they could talk about proportionality - asking parishioners to consider how evil the anti-abortion politician must be before it offsets the millions of lives lost (and millions more damaged) by abortion.

But I think this is dishonest and a set up. Terry could have said, "I am trespassing, I know it. I am putting the parish in an awkward position, and I know it. View this as something like a prophetic sign done by somebody who is prepared to bear the penalties."

But when we get the "I was only ..." talk, I think he was going for a confrontation and doesn't have the integrity to say so. Even clergy don't like being forced to play a part in somebody else's psycho-drama.

12 posted on 09/19/2008 12:31:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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13 posted on 09/19/2008 1:30:34 PM PDT by NYer ("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
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There were statements that said it was immoral to vote for Barak Obama,” Caine said.

It is immoral to vote for Barack Obama, considering the fact that there is a more pro-life candidate, so what's the problem again?

15 posted on 09/19/2008 1:37:10 PM PDT by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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As much as I sympathize with the guy passing out the leaflets, you do need to ask permission. It’s rather rude not too.


16 posted on 09/19/2008 2:27:04 PM PDT by Desdemona (Lipstick only until the election. The gloss has been sacrificed for the greater good.)
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This was an attention-getting stunt, with a partisan political spin. The Archdiocese has every right not to be linked to the McCain campaign (or anyone else’s). People who invade church property to stage political theatre are out of line and may well be guilty of grave sin.

I am so tired of whining consequentialists — of every stripe.


17 posted on 09/19/2008 3:03:21 PM PDT by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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