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Posted on 09/19/2008 11:00:29 AM PDT by Mershon
Randall Terry isn’t even Catholic. Our churches are not generally available for public use for peoples causes, even good ones. I’ve always thought he is a misguided fool and this cements that view.
Randall Terry isn’t even Catholic. Our churches are not generally available for public use for peoples causes, even good ones. I’ve always thought he is a misguided fool and this cements that view.
Randall Terry is Catholic. Comment without reading?
Thanks for your opinion. Voting for pro-life candidates is a natural law and moral issue. It is not political.
Thanks for your opinion.
I took the voting guide from Catholic Answers called "Voting Guide for Serious Catholics" and paired it to the party platforms here. My greatest critique of the Church right now is their refusal to name names. What good does it do to hold a rally for life and then have half of the congregation vote for the very people promoting abortion?!
It's a bit like the war on terror... you don't make war on an ideology, you make war on the people who implement the ideology. Just so, you don't fight abortion, you fight the people who are entrenching abortion in our society.
Many are called but few are chosen.
I live in MD. The Catholic Church here is extremely liberal. IMHO. they favor Dems because the Church wants
social justice. They do not seem to realize the soccial
justice includes in demand abortion.
We also walked up to houses and tucked the literature into doors, being careful not to put it in the mailbox because I did know that was against the law.
I didn't consider that I might be breaking the law but pictured an irate priest coming out and a confrontation. Nothing happened, but it was very similar to this article.
If I ever do it again, I would rather say on the public sidewalk. The man I worked with gave me a complimentary subscription to the Wanderer for 6 months.
I've not been active in the pro life movement other than vocal but not judgemental with people who cross my path when the subject comes up.
The only other thing I ever did was ask a priest to bless a Miraculous Medal, then took it to a large, vacant lot in a rather affuent area and buried it in the snow and grass as best I could because I knew a PP clinic was in the works to be built there. I just did that on my own. That clinic was built there and has been operational for several years now. Most local abortions are performed there. I often wonder why the medal didn't seem to work nor were our countless prayers answered to thwart that building.
Miraculous medals aren't magical talismans and God always answers our prayers. He simply does so in His own time and in His own way. If we are truly praying that His Will be done... then don't be surprised when the finite can't fathom what the infinite is up to.
May God bless you.
Misleading headline. As I scan the article, they were arrested for trespassing, not for passing out literature.
I know, like I said, I was naive then. I'd read stories about people doing things like this and claiming it worked. Maybe someday our prayers will be answered anyway in a loving way. Your point is well taken that the finite can't fathom what the infinite is up to.
Thank you for asking for the blessing. I think my heart was in the right place. I had my granddaughter in the car with me but didn't make her walk into the field with me. If my own thinking hadn't changed and I'd listened to a couple of people whose opinions I valued greatly, I could have very well twisted my daughter's arm or bribed her into getting an abortion. I think about it a lot. She turned out to be such a blessing in my life.
I knew we were looking ahead at a bumpy ride, but never once was I even tempted even though it wasn't my call as she was 17 and could have gone behind my back and gotten one. I had to live so much of my life by faith when the going got rough. It was such a trying time, like most of my life, but after another family crisis involving the baby's father, I took a break at work and laid down on a lounge in the ladies' room for a few minutes. I called out in prayer, why after we have tried to do the right thing, has all this happened to us? I had a vision and was shown my daughter's hand and my hand over our bathtub where the shower is with blood on them and was given the words, "Neither you nor your daughter have blood on their hands." When I went back into the office, I confided to a Christian who was the secretary of the big boss, just telling her about the vision (I was a little shaken), but didn't tell her about the words (they were impressed in my mind, not audible). Her immediate response were almost those exact words. Just thought I'd share it. Sometimes we do get a little boost when the going gets rough and the strength to go on.
It is against subsidiarity and it is imprudent for the Catholic Church (or any congregation which is not predominantly black)to endorse a party or a candidate.
What they can do is lay out the teaching on abortion clearly, emphasizing the culpability of aiding in the procuring of abortions, they can admit that it is at least intellectually possible that an anti-abortion candidate might otherwise be so far off base that it just might conceivably be possible that it was better to vote for the pro-abort politician. And then they could talk about proportionality - asking parishioners to consider how evil the anti-abortion politician must be before it offsets the millions of lives lost (and millions more damaged) by abortion.
But I think this is dishonest and a set up. Terry could have said, "I am trespassing, I know it. I am putting the parish in an awkward position, and I know it. View this as something like a prophetic sign done by somebody who is prepared to bear the penalties."
But when we get the "I was only ..." talk, I think he was going for a confrontation and doesn't have the integrity to say so. Even clergy don't like being forced to play a part in somebody else's psycho-drama.
That is par for the course.
It is immoral to vote for Barack Obama, considering the fact that there is a more pro-life candidate, so what's the problem again?
As much as I sympathize with the guy passing out the leaflets, you do need to ask permission. It’s rather rude not too.
This was an attention-getting stunt, with a partisan political spin. The Archdiocese has every right not to be linked to the McCain campaign (or anyone else’s). People who invade church property to stage political theatre are out of line and may well be guilty of grave sin.
I am so tired of whining consequentialists — of every stripe.
Good answer in #9 and also consider that the medal may be doing its work in the afterlife -- the souls of the departed babies may be going directly into the outstretched arms of our Blessed Virgin Mary on the way to their Savior. I'm sure you will be greeted with special graces as well.
Regarding the fact that the prayers failed to halt the PP operation -- same thing happened here, although I wasn't surprised. God at no time has told us that sin on earth would be halted (at least at this time) as a result of our prayers. I still pray that abortions will be halted but also pray for the favorable disposition of the souls of the tiny lost babies.
Indeed it was (the other person's answer, not mine to anyone who may be confused here), I'm a little short-sighted when it comes to prayer sometimes, you want to know that somehow it has turned out for the best but can't always see it ever in your lifetime.
doing its work in the afterlife
One can hope, didn't think of it that way.
I'm sure you will be greeted with special graces as well.
Thank you. My best hope now is that I make it someplace better . I just want to be like I am now, one of the least of the least, even there because it's what life has made of me now, and it may sound paradoxical, but it gives me a freedom I'd never have otherwise. It's not my call.
same thing happened here, although I wasn't surprised
No, I'm not surprised now. We can only do so much. Many, many people have put a lot more on the line than I have, saw a video of a couple priests and laypeople, small group, in Denver, praying the rosary in the street, civil disobedience, then they went to jail. Court costs and all, it's a huge sacrifice.
I still pray that abortions will be halted but also pray for the favorable disposition of the souls of the tiny lost babies.
We can never give up, but I don't see it happening in my lifetime. I'm resigned to that. In my life, I'm kind of burned out on little kids, if you knew my whole story which I can't tell, you might understand why, but I can never get those little ones far from my mind, even knowing some would be mistreated, etc. I cannot justify it. It seems like the ultimate injustice, but I just try to think it is being allowed for a reason.
I always knew from reading the bible that things would get very bad, so bad we can hardly imagine, so I guess this is part of it, part of the "mystery of iniquity".
I felt bad that I told about my what I thought was a vision because, frankly to many it would sound crazy, hadn't thought about that for a long time. But it really happened. And several others. Finally I asked God to take all that away and haven't had any for a long time. It's just as well. I only talk about some of it to help the faith of my family members, I'm talking about my adult children and their children, many now grown I just live each day as it comes now, walking by what faith I have left.
Describes me as well.
Best wishes to you.
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