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To: llevrok

>> he gave confidential information to his captors or admitted his “guilt” as a war terrorist

It’s well known that, under torture, he “admitted guilt” in some fashion (signed a statement or something?)

But I have never heard that he gave confidential information to his captors.

Sign of weakness? I don’t see it as such. I doubt I would have had the guts to last one tenth as long as John McCain. This angle of attack on him is doomed to fail, IMO.


5 posted on 09/18/2008 12:39:13 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (I've left Cynical City... bound for Jaded.)
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To: Nervous Tick
But I have never heard that he gave confidential information to his captors.

He gave them the names of the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers! (instead of the names of his crew, or his commanders)

39 posted on 09/18/2008 12:49:40 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Nervous Tick
I doubt I would have had the guts to last one tenth as long as John McCain.

What remains of the Hanoi Hilton is now a museum, most of it having been torn down to make room for a major high rise. What's left is clean, nicely preserved and generally well done. It is also as grim a place as I have walked through, from the outer walls encrusted with large shards of broken glass (in place of razor/barbed wire), to the size of the cells, well you get the picture.

Whatever one says of McCain, surely his bravery and strength of will to survive as long as he did in that hell hole demonstrates the stupidity of attaching those traits.

Curiously enough, 3 days after my visit to the Hanoi Hilton, I was in Can Tho, on the Mekong River, and while in my hotel room turned on HBO and was treated to the movie (I think) called the John McCain Story.

65 posted on 09/18/2008 1:01:44 PM PDT by dmz
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To: Nervous Tick

That’s correct, he signed some statement of “guilt”, but he NEVER “broke” and gave the Vietnamese any information, except the names of the Green Bay Packers starting line-up, for which he got another beating. He did nothing wrong or detrimental to other POWs or the USA.


78 posted on 09/18/2008 1:06:31 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Nervous Tick
McCain gave his captors the names of the lineup of a professional ball team as the names of his fellow Naval officers.

The more anybody brings up McCain's time as a POW the worse it is for the coddled 0ne.

81 posted on 09/18/2008 1:07:45 PM PDT by allmendream (Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! Sa-RAH! RAH RAH RAH! McCain/Palin2008)
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To: Nervous Tick

I think we are forgetting that McCain was singled out for especially rough treatment after he refused early release. He became the pet victim of his captors who were incensed by his refusal to give them a propaganda coup by accepting early release and then his absolute steadfastness in the face of DAILY torture.

Other captives who had been there long before McCain arrived have said repeatedly that they had never seen anyone treated as badly as John McCain, to the point that several times when he was dumped back in his cell after a torture session they were convinced he would not live through the night.

I heard the bozo on Rush. He starts out by lying and it goes downhill from there. He wants to open the call by making it sound like something ‘bothers’ him. The whole conversation is a ruse and for my money this man can have his own special little place in hell, a place where ‘giving in’ brings no relief whatsoever.


104 posted on 09/18/2008 1:23:18 PM PDT by jwparkerjr
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