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To: DB

“Wrong.”

Sorry to disappoint you. Pray, tell me how a missing rudder would cause an aircraft to lose its lift.


21 posted on 09/14/2008 3:51:34 AM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: ought-six
Lift isn't the issue, at least initially...

Modern jets are inherently unstable without the vertical stabilizer. There's nothing to keep the nose pointed forward. The plane can simply rotate on a horizontal plane without any form of overriding control. Airplanes don't fly well sideways. With modern aircraft the fuselage extends as far in front of the wings as it does behind so it doesn't not act as a stabilizing force (if there's more fuselage in front than behind then it is a positive feedback system without a vertical stabilizer). Flight 587 lost the entire vertical stabilizer (not just the "rudder" flap) in flight.

30 posted on 09/14/2008 4:28:10 AM PDT by DB
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To: ought-six

Just picking up on this thread...the flight data recorder clearly showed the over-reaction by the co-pilot to wake turbulence from a departing JAL 747. It then showed that the plane lost yaw control due to the vertical stabilizer snapping off. It was found in the water along the terminal flight path. Losing the vertical stabilizer would not cause the plan to lose lift, but would cause uncontrolled sideslip and loss of control, which will result in a stall.

If you want to rebut the findings of the NTSB on this topic, which would mean that you suspect a wide-ranging government conspiracy among the investigation team, you could at least bring a fundamental understanding of the actual events and some notion of aviation/aerodynamics. Otherwise you should leave the conclusions to experts or put on the tin-foil hat.


36 posted on 09/14/2008 6:00:32 AM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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