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Major Train Derailment Metro Link In California
Fox/AP

Posted on 09/12/2008 4:48:21 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

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To: DoughtyOne
"Whether one rides in the cab or not, I wouldn’t know either."

All diesel-electric locomotives require an operator with constant pressure on the "deadman" (great choice of words, huh?) pedal.

201 posted on 09/13/2008 4:48:02 PM PDT by editor-surveyor ( If Obama had Palin's resume and experience Obama would be qualified to be VP too.)
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To: ZGuy

He wasn’t in the engine? I had thought he didn’t survive. I thought he was in the engine at the time of the crash.


202 posted on 09/13/2008 4:48:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: ZGuy

BTW, perhaps you meant the Conductor, who was in car 3.


203 posted on 09/13/2008 4:49:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: balk

So I’ll ask the question I don’t want to ask. Based upon historical precedent, are we looking at Bob (the conductor) spending the rest of his life in prison for 30 or so counts of manslaughter?


204 posted on 09/13/2008 4:51:41 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Yaelle

The E.R. contact seemed to think he was going to be okay. Like I said, he was awake and talking to his parents. I’m not in contact, so I don’t know if he had other injuries. If so, they must have been manageable.

I agree this was a major mistake. What a sad situation...

For all we know, the engineer may have had some medical problem too prior to the accident though.


205 posted on 09/13/2008 4:52:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: Yaelle

Thanks for your concern.


206 posted on 09/13/2008 4:52:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yes. Thanks for the correction.


207 posted on 09/13/2008 4:52:56 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: editor-surveyor

That’s a good point. Thank you.

It would be interesting to know if there are any exceptions to that. I would hope not.


208 posted on 09/13/2008 4:53:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: ZGuy

No problem at all. Thanks for the response. I was just trying to make sure I understood things correctly.


209 posted on 09/13/2008 4:54:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Both

One would expect a derailment after a 30 mph head on collision. So parenthetically putting that in the title is uninformative.

The chances of a derailment and a collision independently at the same time is statistically extremely unlikely. That would be newsworthy.

So which is it?

210 posted on 09/13/2008 5:00:21 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: DoughtyOne

I have not seen more than one working conductor when I rode the train. I have seen more than one on a train going back to a certain station.


211 posted on 09/13/2008 5:34:00 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Real change actually changes something.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

It’s all over the news. And there’s plenty of details in this thread. Are you actually unaware of the situation, therefore honestly confused by the title, or are you looking to pick a fight?


212 posted on 09/13/2008 6:55:45 PM PDT by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: CedarDave

A 25th fatality is now being reported by the hospital responsible for treating this casualty.

Two female casualties (fatal) remain unidentified at this time.


213 posted on 09/13/2008 7:10:04 PM PDT by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup
It’s all over the news. And there’s plenty of details in this thread. Are you actually unaware of the situation, therefore honestly confused by the title, or are you looking to pick a fight?

From what I read, it's a collision. The title is confusing, unless I missed something in the story. Is it too hard to simple have answered it's one or the other of the two scenarios I offered?

214 posted on 09/13/2008 7:13:25 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

You know what the facts are pertaining to this terrible tragedy. You don’t need a perfectly composed title, to tell you what happened in LA. Did you see the pictures? Did you see the violent collision? Did you see the derailed cars? Did you figure out what happened? I’ve caught you stirring trouble. Now you are insulting my intelligence. Out of respect for others on this thread, I’m not going to answer you further on this board.


215 posted on 09/13/2008 7:34:44 PM PDT by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup

Per KCAL 9, a group of teen train junkies, had made friends with the Metro engineer. They often video’d and talked to the engineer, even having his cell number. At 4:20 one of the teens recieved a text message from the engineer giving him an update on the trains schedule. The kid sent a short text back. The crash happened at 4:22.


216 posted on 09/13/2008 9:15:19 PM PDT by umgud
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To: ZGuy

As long as he wasn’t in the cab. Sounds like the engineer is solo on the commuter trains - single point of failure.


217 posted on 09/13/2008 9:36:32 PM PDT by balk (thefightnetwork.com)
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To: ThomasThomas

Thanks for your observation Thomas. That had been my perception, but I didn’t want to voice it without anything much to base it on.


218 posted on 09/13/2008 10:04:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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To: umgud
It will be an extremely pitiful moment in history, if it's proven that texting by the conductor, led to his inattention and negligence, resulting in the collision and subsequent loss of life and limb. Whoever texted the conductor ought to have a restless night of sleep. I have to get some sleep now.
219 posted on 09/14/2008 1:56:26 AM PDT by freepersup (find the enemy... destroy the enemy... remain vigilant)
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To: freepersup

E-N-G-I-N-E-E-R

not the conductor


220 posted on 09/14/2008 11:22:50 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac President.)
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