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To: Vermont Lt

“But abortion was not banned in all states before Roe v Wade.”

It was but we have let the Constitution become an “evolving” or “living and breathing document”. The honest truth is the Constitution is fairly WORTHLESS. We need to get back to it.

“It should be a state’s rights issue.”

NO. It was a given under the Consitution that abortion should be and was ILLEGAL. The states were once in line with the Consitution. Over th years the COnstitution has been eroded and your “method” is allowing more of that and more confusion. It’s not about a “method”. It is about the reading and proper interpretation of the Constitution.

“I agree with your ideal—that it should be illegal. I simply disagree with your method.”

Again it’s not about a “method”. It is about a right regardless of what state it is that a person has this:

... they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, ...

If you read the Constiituion you will understand the in no way shape or form is abortion one of our founding principles. SAHME on YOU! It is not a “state” right to murder the unborn. It never was a “right” till the Constituion was perverted for policitical reasons.

AGAIN, read it:

We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness—That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed…

—The Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

Consider the above words, and this is what we learn:

The right to life is a “self-evident truth;” it is not based on the speculations and shifting opinions of men.

The right to life is “unalienable” and an essential part of us. It exists independently from what others want. It is not a grant from government. It exists, whether there is a government or not. And it certainly can’t be ruled out of existence by unelected judges.

The government derives its “just Powers from the Consent of the Governed,” namely us. The Founding Fathers believed in “the capability of a people to govern themselves,” as Abraham Lincoln put it.

The reason for government is “to secure these Rights.” So the Constitution is, to use the words of the political scientist Paul Rahe, the “instrument for the im-plementation” of the Declaration of Independence. Thus, judges are not free to ignore the principles laid down in the Declaration of Independence.

Instead of being guided by the Declaration of Independence, the pro-abortion majorities in the Supreme Court’s abortion cases since 1973 have blocked out the bright light of the Declaration and groped around in the resulting “penumbra” and made up a new “right” to suit their purpose. To grasp how far down we have come from the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, try fitting this new “right” of a mother to kill her unborn child to the concepts of a “self-evident truth” or an “unalienable right.”

We definitely DISAGREE.

I don’t need a “method”.

This right is written in the Constitution.


284 posted on 09/14/2008 6:28:33 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ The reason for government is “to secure these Rights.” ]

WRONG.. God gives UNalienable rights.. Government can ONLY alienate those rights.. Which is difference between the unique (in history) American Republic(because of state rights).. Democracy is about alienating rights always in every case universally completely.. NO democracy ever invented has any rights at all. Canada, Europe, Latin American or any democracy has zero rights.. They have privileges..

There is a large difference between rights and priviledges.. Canada and Europe have zero rights especially UNalienable rights.. Central governments with democratic clients are democracys.. A republic with State governments and a subserviant client as a federal government is what America is supposed to be.. With the States being the Boss and the central government being the servant is the tenor of the American Constitution.. Thats is WHY? the American Constitution has nowhere in it the words democracy or democratic... By design.. Democracy is now and always has been MOB Rule by mobsters and is a political social disease.. with socialism as a symptom.. always in every iteration.. Democracy is an obscene word.. and democratic rule is a myth.. Democracys are always ruled by an elite.. and are not democratic at all.. None of them..

The American Constitution was designed to LIMIT federal government not enhance it.. The people that are TRICKED into thinking democracy is a good thing are brain damaged and misinformed.. called democrats.. And those against democracy and for this unique Republic are called Republicans..

288 posted on 09/15/2008 4:46:38 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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