[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

I didn't think to mention this yesterday, but the conditions of this experiment which Deamer uses to demonstrate that self-organisation is possible are wildly out of all proportion to anything even remotely likely to have contributed to "the appearance of life on an early earth". 250ºC at 0.2 GPa? Does anyone realise that 0.2 GPa (200 MPa) is roughly TWICE the pressure (~116 MPa) found at the bottom of the ocean in the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench, the deepest point anywhere on earth? His experiments have no relevance to any conditions, realistic or long-shot, likely to have ever existed on the earth. Further, even if we are to suppose that at some point way, way back in the misty past of the mythological evolutionist "millions and millions of years" there was a subduction trench deep enough to yield this sort of pressure, it would almost certainly have been ice cold, just as Challenger Deep is, despite being an area of tectonic activity.

This work is no evidence for self-organisation as a possible explanation for how life could have appeared in a purely naturalistic manner. All he's shown is that, under very extreme conditions having little relevancy to anything occurring naturally on this planet, he can make some fatty molecules self-organise since he's made it thermodynamically favourable for them to do so.

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This would be a good time for creationsists to make up their minds.

You can’t assert on the one hand that no one can know what initial conditions on the earth were like, then turn around and say that current research conditions are too extreme for the initial conditions on the earth.

There are at least 4 planets in our solar system that easily meet these criteria. I remind you that Dr. Deamer’s area of research is astrobiology, as it says in the first line of GGG’s post.

I would also like to point out that creationists have always claimed that life can’t have self-organized under any conditions. The fact that components of life can be found to self-organize at our current atrocious state of scientific knowledge is significant.

Over the next several hundred years, this area of research will grow beyond our current comprehension, according to God’s design.