[LeGrande]

Your simple experiment does not measure the gravitational pull of the sun.

LOL True it doesn't directly measure the gravitational pull of the Sun, I never said it does. Do you have a nice simple experiment that does? I would be very interested in seeing it. I might even pay you money for it.

The experiment does illustrate the difference between the actual and apparent position of the Sun and that's all that that matters : )

[Fichori]

“LOL True it doesn't directly measure the gravitational pull of the Sun, I never said it does. Do you have a nice simple experiment that does? I would be very interested in seeing it. I might even pay you money for it.

The experiment does illustrate the difference between the actual and apparent position of the Sun and that's all that that matters : )”

And just how do you know where the Sun is to illustrate its actual position?

[mrjesse]

Said LeGrande:The experiment does illustrate the difference between the actual and apparent position of the Sun and that's all that that matters : )

You could carve an apple into 2.1 degree slices to illustrate 2.1 degrees -- but that doesn't mean that the 2.1 degrees is correct for the sun's apparent instantaneous displacement!

Much better then illustrating (since even an artist can illustrate something that's not true) would be to demonstrate! And your experiment demonstrates that the earth rotates at 2.1 degrees per 8.3 minutes -- it does not demonstrate whether there is any or how much displacement there is between the sun's current and currently apparent position.

And that is our point of disagreement - not whether the earth rotates at 2.1 degrees per 8.3 minutes, but whether the actual and apparent position of the sun, for an observer on earth, at an instant in time, are different by 2.1 degrees.

-Jesse