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Newest Palin Attack: Son Vandalized Buses, Forced to Join Military (NYDaily News Debunks)
publiusforum.com ^ | 09/11/08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 09/11/2008 7:49:39 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

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To: GovernmentShrinker

Yes the military has access to juvenille records. Every person I enlisted (120+) had to be investigated. The recruiters start the process and the MEPS (Military Entrance Processing Station) takes it over from there.

I have heard of cases where a kid will tell a judge that “I’m gonna join the military” and the naive judge will dismiss charges. The judge has no authority over the military to enforce an elistment. Also, when the kid tries to enlist, dismissed or not, the original charges usually show up and must be waivered even if no conviction was posted.

The military has no innocent until proven guilty clause when it comes to enlisting. Every charge guilty, innocent, plead, dismissed etc. gets vetted so that the military does not let garbage enlist.

Semper Fidelis


61 posted on 09/11/2008 8:38:45 AM PDT by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"It appears he had few other employment opportunities,"

Can you please substantiate this claim? Of course not!

"and if his academic record had been worthy of anything other than an open-enrollment community college, I’m sure we would have heard about it."

Please post copies of his school transcripts, since you obviously must have seen them in order to make such a bold statement...

I'm not sure what your problem is... did your preferred candidate get passed over in favor of Sarah? Whatever your issue is, I'm going to ignore you now... Go sulk in your corner like a good troll.

62 posted on 09/11/2008 8:38:59 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Following that limited line of logic, wouldn’t the judge simply have dismissed the charges against Track Palin, rather then “forcing him to join the military”? Now, THAT would be preferential treatment. I mean, forcing him to join the military to be sent to Iraq ... how can you even claim that that is preferential treatment?

And, by the way, you ignored my question about where you’re getting your intimate knowledge of how these thing work. DU? KOS? Huffington?


63 posted on 09/11/2008 8:40:14 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: CA Conservative

See my question at post #34. I know perfectly well that the military doesn’t actually participate in this sort of arrangement. But I don’t know of any reason why a juvenile court can’t do it without any assistance from the military. That obviously wouldn’t prove it happened in this case, but it’s not at all clear that it’s impossible. And the two allegations are perfectly separable. The two vandals claim Track wasn’t one of their unnamed co-vandals, but that doesn’t prove he wasn’t. He could have been one of the co-vandals, without the “given the alternative or military service or prison” story being true.


64 posted on 09/11/2008 8:42:00 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CA Conservative

See my question at post #34. I know perfectly well that the military doesn’t actually participate in this sort of arrangement. But I don’t know of any reason why a juvenile court can’t do it without any assistance from the military. That obviously wouldn’t prove it happened in this case, but it’s not at all clear that it’s impossible. And the two allegations are perfectly separable. The two vandals claim Track wasn’t one of their unnamed co-vandals, but that doesn’t prove he wasn’t. He could have been one of the co-vandals, without the “given the alternative or military service or prison” story being true.


65 posted on 09/11/2008 8:42:12 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: TC Rider

You posted: and recently nailed going 85+ in a Prius. (I didn’t think that was possible)
***

It is a goofy looking car, but it goes pretty quick if you want it to. I just bought my second one (first one had 130k miles on it— still running great. My son now drives it.) Never had any problems with either of them. And while I can’t say I have had mine up to 85, I have been 80 and it was no problem—

I am no greenie, but the Prius really is a fun car— and my new one is averaging right at 50 mpg overall— mostly highway...


66 posted on 09/11/2008 8:42:21 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Oh please....
Save it for your buddies at KOS.

I AM that kid.
At that age I was drinking, partying, chasing, and getting in to trouble every nite. MY upper-middle-class step-father was rising within the state Dem Party.

I could have chosen anywhere in the state to go to college, and could have a had a state job by simply asking for it.

Instead, I chose another path, THE USAF, and it was the best choice I ever made...

You are assuming an awful lot, doncha think?


67 posted on 09/11/2008 8:43:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Please explain to us how being forced into the military is preferential treatment? That sounds more like a 4-year sentence ... As I said before, the judge could have simply dismissed the charges.

Regardless of the fact that we don’t have any evidence that you’re a child molestor doesn’t mean you’re NOT. (using your form of logic here)


68 posted on 09/11/2008 8:45:26 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: Maelstorm

And then there’s the Palin-dromic ‘live tot evil’ attitude about her son Trig that keeps coming up because he’s Downs syndromic being spread by the dedicated “Pro-choice” crowd.


69 posted on 09/11/2008 8:45:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

and your reason for thinking he WAS one of the vandals is what? where’s your evidence, counselor? why the predisposition towards believing badly of this family? your comments have invoked the presumption of troll. let’s see if you can rebut it. i am predisposed to think that your fave candidate was based over and you are feeling bitter and resentful.


70 posted on 09/11/2008 8:46:04 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: GovernmentShrinker

See post #61. That blows your supposition out of the water. Even if the judge wanted to do so, unless the entire arrest was deleted from the system, the Army would have found it in the background check before allowing him to enlist. Unless you are going to claim more knowledge than someone who actually did that kind of work, your theories have been debunked. Buh-bye!


71 posted on 09/11/2008 8:46:07 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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To: GovernmentShrinker
You have more faith in the word of teenage vandals than I do . . .

That's your second allusion to maybe he was involved.

I guess you don't see maligning someone on the web for all the world to see and read for all the years to come as anything you might want to consider NOT doing?

Tantamount to back fence gossiping - but much worse as it's putting it out there for the whole world.

this young man is going off to fight for our freedoms - including gossip mongers.

Shame on you all

72 posted on 09/11/2008 8:51:58 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

How is it that skanks, skags and other rag sites can find all this juicy data on Repubs. but not one ounce of ink on Zerobamahahahaa’a college transcripts? Maybe they should talk to someone who he roomed with at Harvard. She might be able to give details.


73 posted on 09/11/2008 8:53:22 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: shadeaud; All

OK FOLKS...

We have found us a full-scale Palin hater, and likely a KOS TROLL!!!!

Check this out from 9/3:

“To: tomymind
We need a different VP nominee to win. Palin is absolutely devastating to McCain’s chances.

Though as many pundits have pointed out, most of the damage is irretrievably done, since even replacing her with a top-notch candidate (most of whom would probably decline the offer at this point anyway) would not repair the perception that McCain used extremely poor judgement in selecting her in the first place.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2074624/posts?page=8#8

HELLO??? Anybody but ME see a trend?

This guy has spent the last 10 days BASHING the Palin’s at every chance, up to and INCLUDING saying that the National Enquirer has been telling the TRUTH about Sarah’s “Affair”, and now this crap!!

DUDE-You’ve been outed...


74 posted on 09/11/2008 8:53:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Actually, one source was the mother of one of the vandals (see article).


75 posted on 09/11/2008 8:54:34 AM PDT by pelicandriver
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To: Jackson57

This troll “GovernmentShrinker” isn’t going to explain ANYTHING. Except to his buddies at KOS.

Check out this guys posting history. He’s been pushing EVERY lie and rumor about PALIN on this board.


76 posted on 09/11/2008 8:56:55 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: tcrlaf

It’ pretty clear that these people have absolutely no intent to find the “truth”, but merely to throw as many accusations as they can make up to create the perception that Gov. Palin is somehow flawed.


77 posted on 09/11/2008 8:57:45 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: tcrlaf

And the funny (though it’s not really funny) thing about is it that even with all of the false accusations against Gov. Palin, she’s still kicking Obama’s ass. That’s got them foaming at the mouth angry.


78 posted on 09/11/2008 8:59:23 AM PDT by Jackson57
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To: GovernmentShrinker; marine86297
this is your THIRD post intimating that this young man is guilty. You are getting tiresome. And totally irresponsible.

Do you know more than "marine86297" see his post # 30 - = if not, may I not so humbly suggest you STFU.

You have no right to be maligning this young soldier, off to the war zone today.

Unless you have irrefutable proof otherwise, you need to cease and desist. Your continued posting against this soldier is beyond the pale - and tells much about YOU.

79 posted on 09/11/2008 9:00:01 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Jackson57

And this particular troll has been at it for a while...


80 posted on 09/11/2008 9:00:02 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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