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To: muawiyah
"The expressions were typical of those used by male homosexuals about women."

That does not interest me in the slightest. The cliche is an old one, by no means a stereotypically homosexual one, and there's nothing wrong with it. Obama's used it before, McCain's used it before, there are at least four books with that title and there was nothing wrong with Obama using it the way he used it today.
62 posted on 09/09/2008 5:56:38 PM PDT by Lyford
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To: Lyford
Obama knew exactly what he was saying and the intent as well as the impact, Thereof.

As Hewitt said, Obama's insincere, non-apology proves the point.

67 posted on 09/09/2008 6:00:24 PM PDT by Cedric
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To: Lyford

>>there was nothing wrong with Obama using it the way he used it today.<<

I didn’t think it was offensive either, but that particular folksy expression sounds pretty silly coming from the same guy who thinks they are bitter hillbillies who cling to guns and religion. I guess he is trying to learn to talk to people who he sees as “trailer trash.”


69 posted on 09/09/2008 6:02:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: Lyford
Well, whatever you want to think. No doubt the expression has worked its way out into the straight world ~ but not exactly in that configuration.

It was pretty clear what was being said. Obama is going to have to 'splain it all to the big boys who control the campaign bucks of course. No doubt Barney Frank understands it completely.

70 posted on 09/09/2008 6:02:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lyford
I think you saw only the abbreviated video where the next couple of sentences concern FISH and STINK.

It is absolutely inescapable what he was talking about, how he was talking, and why he talks that way.

I was wondering why it was that Farrakhan's Nation of Islam hadn't yet picked up on these guys in Trinity UCC ~ and now we know ~ they are gay or bi ~ and Calypso Louie doesn't deal with their problems.

87 posted on 09/09/2008 6:24:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lyford; All

I’m sorry folks, I have to agree 100% with Lyford here. I just watched the clip and Palin wasn’t mentioned anywhere near this remark. He mentioned McCain, and then he mentioned McCain’s policies, and then he used a fairly common metaphor. Do you honestly think Obama is THAT stupid?

This is asinine “gotcha” politics instead of winning on the issues.

“Every good Christian ought to be more ready to give a favorable interpretation to another’s statement than to condemn it. But if he cannot do so, let him ask how the other understands it. And if the latter understands it badly, let the former correct him with love. If that does not suffice, let the Christian try all suitable ways to bring the other to a correct interpretation so that he may be saved.” —Saint Ignatius of Loyola, Spiritual Exercises 22


103 posted on 09/09/2008 6:43:34 PM PDT by Claud
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