[goldstategop]

Goldwater's quote is errant libertarian nonsense - a pipe dream. Its goes against human nature to expect men to ever relinquish power - the most we can do is limit it and provide safeguards against its abuse.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[Tublecane]

Yes, yes, I understand you completely. All I want is for someone to SAY they’re going to divest themselves of power. Can’t we have that tiny bit of consolation.

[padre35]

I disagree, the Govt is not our friend, we must constantly demand that they divest themselves of power over or lives and our families, we should never make it easy for them to grab such power from us...EVER.