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Palin's Social Views Hurt Ticket
Real Clear Poltics ^ | 9/4/08 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 09/04/2008 8:42:02 AM PDT by steve-b

I had dinner last night with a Republican-leaning independent who was despondent over John McCain's choice of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate. She had been looking forward to supporting McCain as a fiscal conservative with a deep understanding of foreign relations. But all she could now see was that picture of Palin's pregnant 17-year-old looking defiant and stupid as she held mom's fifth baby.

Many religious conservatives are jubilant. They regard Palin as a swell choice because her high-schooler was going to have the baby. The line sent my friend into shock. This is not a matter of abortion politics, she said, but of managing one's own affairs.

"Don't they have birth control up in Alaska?" she asked....

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008veep; barbie; catfight; democrats; dnctalkingpoints; elections; mccainpalin; palin; palinfamily; palinnomination; palinrippedmyflesh; pds; sarahpalinbarbie; stevebgone; supressthevote; troll; zot
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To: Kevmo
***Tell that to my computer when it’s bogged down with pictures over a wireless internet connection. When I go to sites that are text-only it’s much faster.

I repeat. Posted photos on FR are NOT located on FR server but are only linked in the post. Look at the source code for the posts.

141 posted on 09/08/2008 9:21:32 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

Then I repeat, though we’re beating a dead horse.

My computer does not know the difference. Unless people are using Linux to code their browsers individually, 99% of users have the same experience. The reason you are complaining about spam is because of your own user experience. But it has nothing to do with Bandwidth — that’s a simple red herring. If you’re going to complain about spam, the pictures should be your biggest target. But you’re not complaining about the pictures, because you have some other agenda (don’t like the “birth record” mentioned?) or you’re just a Clymer.

Repeat all you want, but it shows you ain’t listening. Go back into your hole.


142 posted on 09/08/2008 9:28:07 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: 50sDad

I don’t understand, though, why conservatives are championing someone who brags about her and her husband’s membership in labor unions, took profits from oil companies and gave them to citizens (isn’t that what Hugo Chavez does?), and is one of the biggest takers of earmarks. And there must have been a hundred threads here over time vilifying working mothers. It seems like everyone’s values have changed overnight.


143 posted on 09/08/2008 9:41:15 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: Kevmo
My computer does not know the difference.

Correct. Your computer does not see any difference. However, the original post was about FR bandwidth and pictures do not take up FR bandwidth as they are only linked, not posted on FR. Look at the source code or right click on the photo and you will see that it does not reside on FR.

144 posted on 09/08/2008 9:54:41 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: Crystal Cove
I don’t understand, though, why conservatives are championing someone who brags about her and her husband’s membership in labor unions,

My wife is union but is a conservative.

took profits from oil companies and gave them to citizens (isn’t that what Hugo Chavez does?),

No. Go do your research.

and is one of the biggest takers of earmarks.

No. Go do your research.


145 posted on 09/08/2008 10:00:32 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

original post was about FR bandwidth and pictures do not take up FR bandwidth
***ho hum, red herring again. Rinse and repeat.

If you’re so convinced this is the right thing for Free Republic, let’s open up a thread on “the definition of spam”. Currently the definition is “whoever is the admin moderator on duty calls it as he sees it”. So Clymers like you send in their little anonymous complaints, hiding behind mommy’s skirt, and the issue never gets addressed. But you won’t do that because your objection isn’t really about “bandwidth” on FR.


146 posted on 09/08/2008 10:05:54 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: E=MC2

I have done research on the earmarks, and everything I can find says Alaska has the highest per capital earmarks of any state in the country, and that Wasilla didn’t receive earmarks until Palin became mayor and hired Ted Stevens’ lobbyist to secure earmarks for her city.

And I just saw another clip of her saying the she took profits from the oil companies and gave them to the people of Alaska.

Can you give me links that dispute the above? I can’t find anything that does.


147 posted on 09/08/2008 10:08:27 AM PDT by Crystal Cove
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To: steve-b

The wonderfully named Froma Harrop has searched out and found a disgruntled RINO who doesn’t like Sarah. If she keeps this up she will have found some dozens by election day. Meantime, Sarah marches on.


148 posted on 09/08/2008 10:16:33 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: E=MC2; Crystal Cove

The union thing is meant for those “Reagon Democrats”. And of course lots of Conservatives are union. Even though they may not like it - if they want to work in their trade they pretty much need to be union.

She renegotiated the oil contracts that were done awhile ago and under the earlier “good old” boys network with allegations of kickbacks, etc. In addition to the increased taxes, there were incentives to the companies for exploration and development, and also an opening of the rules to allow greater competition between the companies.

And in Alaska’s constitution (Article VIII) - the state (the “citizens”) own the mineral rights. In one interview awhile ago she said something like “Yes, ANWR is Federal land. But that is why we are trying to get congress to open up a fraction of it so we can get to the oil that is the citizens’ of Alaska.”

With regards to the biggest taker of earmarks, I believe on a per capita basis that is true.

Of course it costs way more to put in a road between two towns in Alaska than it does to put in a new road in the Lower 48. And that new road is in a state with a VERY small population. (And that road probably crosses Federal Land - 220,000,000 acres of Alaska is Federal land, almost the size of the entire state of Texas.


149 posted on 09/08/2008 10:18:43 AM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: Crystal Cove

You did mean to say per capita, didn’t you?


150 posted on 09/08/2008 10:21:02 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Kevmo

I don’t know what your problem is. I made no statement of position, just a statement of how the technology works. Please stay on topic and stop the personal slurs.


151 posted on 09/08/2008 10:56:44 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: Crystal Cove

From the Seattle Times:

Palin’s criticisms strained her relationship with Alaska’s congressional delegation because they were still receiving plenty of earmark requests that they were trying to push through a Democrat-controlled Congress. This year, in addition to the 31 submitted by Palin’s office, there were dozens submitted by smaller communities and borough governments.

“It really drove a wedge between her and the Alaska delegation,” Persily said. “She was branding them as irresponsible, and they felt like she was holding them up to public ridicule.”

Palin also was admonished by the Fairbanks News-Miner, which chided her for “misplaced criticism” for suggestions that the state earmarks were pork-barrel projects.

Palin wrote back an angry response, saying she had reduced the earmarks — but never labeled them as “pork projects.”

Palin wrote that she supports state earmarks “when there is an important federal purpose and strong citizen support.”


152 posted on 09/08/2008 11:02:39 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: Crystal Cove
And I just saw another clip of her

CNN or MSNBC?

153 posted on 09/08/2008 11:03:26 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

Then feel free to open that thread.

Focusing on the FR server bandwidth is a red herring. I call bull shiite.


154 posted on 09/08/2008 11:06:31 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo

Your song takes 50x more bandwidth on FR as an image link!


155 posted on 09/08/2008 11:07:25 AM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

Then feel free to open that thread.

Focusing on the FR server bandwidth is a red herring. I call bull shiite.

p.s. your argument is ridiculous this time, I look forward to seeing it on such a thread.


156 posted on 09/08/2008 11:22:27 AM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Kevmo
p.s. your argument is ridiculous this time, I look forward to seeing it on such a thread.

I made no argument. Just presented some facts.

157 posted on 09/08/2008 12:03:13 PM PDT by E=MC2
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To: E=MC2

Then feel free to open that thread. I look forward to seeing the presented “facts” on such a thread.


158 posted on 09/08/2008 12:33:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (Obama Birth Certificate is a Forgery. http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/certifigate/index?tab=articles)
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To: Crystal Cove
Can you give me links that dispute the above?

Still at it, I see.

159 posted on 09/08/2008 6:40:45 PM PDT by SittinYonder
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To: SittinYonder

Got a lot of time on your hands, eh?


160 posted on 09/08/2008 7:32:03 PM PDT by Crystal Cove
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