Whatever. The final Gallup poll in 2004 had Bush 49, Kerry 47, Nader 1, undecided 3.
Bush, of course, won, 50.7 to Kerry’s 48.3. In other words, undecideds who voted broke just about evenly.
Calling polls “BS” is a longstanding tradition here at FR. Just recall how everyone was saying in 2006 that the polls were “BS”. Well, as it happens, they weren’t. And they never are (the good ones, at least. Network and newspaper polls, I agree, are not nearly reliable as the big ones, including Gallup).
It is now widely known that the 2004 exit polls were manipulated in an attempt to help Kerry. Obviously the media will not admit this, but that is precisely what happened.
See this link:
http://thehill.com/dick-morris/those-faulty-exit-polls-were-sabotage-2004-11-04.html
But, the 2000 exit polls were pretty well spot on. They showed a narrow Gore victory in the “popular vote”. Which is, as we all know, precisely what happened.
In any event, I am not talking about exit polls here.
I am talking about the polls prior to the election and the fact is, they are quite accurate (the good ones). And if you look at realclearpolitics.com and use their average, that is a good snapshot as well.
The bottom line: as of TODAY, McCain is losing. We have ground to make up.
Pretending that is not the case is not helpful at all.
I believe we can do it, but we have to understand where we are.
I meant the biased libs were full of BS not you...
I distinctly recall some reporters saying this was a Kerry landslide by exit polling...in effect trying to get the Bush voters to go home early, much as they did in the Florida panhandle for Gore back in 2000.
So yeah, it’s all about the legit. polls sure but it’s ALSO about manipulation, as you pointed out.
To assert liberals can somehow be objective in polling with all the evidence of being so blatantly biased in their reporting is absurd.
So yes, it’s a matter of weeding out objectivity and this is simply not going to happen with liberals.
As we know.