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US and Russian warships line up in dispute over Georgia
The Guardian ^
| 8/27/2008
| Ian Traynor
Posted on 08/27/2008 12:22:19 PM PDT by zencat
US and Russian warships took up positions in the Black Sea today in a risky war of nerves on opposing sides of the Georgia conflict.
With the Russians effectively controlling Georgia's main naval base of Poti, Moscow also dispatched the Moskva missile cruiser and two smaller craft on "peacekeeping" duties at the port of Sukhumi on the coast of Abkhazia, the breakaway region that the Kremlin recognised as independent yesterday.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: blacksea; geopolitics; georgia; navy; russia
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:22:19 PM PDT
by
zencat
To: zencat
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:22:40 PM PDT
by
zencat
(Obama isn't an option: (www.McCain-Magnets.com))
To: zencat
Russian warships in Poti - speaks volumes about the vaunted Russian navy
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:30:14 PM PDT
by
frithguild
(We have found a tumor beneath the penumbra - is there a surgeon in the Court?)
To: zencat
The Moskva is definitely a badass, but the Russian subs are the real threat......
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:32:51 PM PDT
by
homeguard
(Join or Die)
To: zencat
Moska missle cruiser
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:33:59 PM PDT
by
frithguild
(We have found a tumor beneath the penumbra - is there a surgeon in the Court?)
To: zencat
Wait a minute.....I thought The One commanded Russia to stand down. /mega dose of sarc
To: homeguard
Nothing a bit of “in flight refueling” wouldn’t cure, and don’t think the Russians are the only ones with subs in the Black Sea at this point.
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:35:34 PM PDT
by
Camel Joe
(liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
To: homeguard
The Moskva is definitely a badass, It's a barely sailable rustbucket which was damaged by the Georgian Navy.
I'll agree with you on the subs, but I don't know if the Russians have any in the Black Sea.
L
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:37:14 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
To: Camel Joe
I know the turks have some there....it would be very tough to get a US sub thru the Bosphorus without ivan knowing....
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:38:31 PM PDT
by
homeguard
(Join or Die)
To: Lurker
The used to have some foxtrots....
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:39:12 PM PDT
by
homeguard
(Join or Die)
To: Lurker
Do you have any "sourceable" information on the condition of the Moskva? I'm not doubting you, it's just that I can't find a thing.
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:40:54 PM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: zencat
The last major naval battle the Russians had, they lost their Pacific Fleet.
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:42:55 PM PDT
by
AU72
To: 1rudeboy
It got tapped by the Georgia navy.
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:43:11 PM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: 1rudeboy
I'm not doubting you, it's just that I can't find a thing. I read on another thread that it had been damaged in the battle and was returning to Sevastapol for repairs, but then was ordered to turn around when the US Navy was enroute to Georgia.
I sure wouldn't want to be a Russian sailor on that thing right now.
L
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:44:48 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(Islam is an insane death cult. Any other aspects are PR to get them within throat-cutting range.)
To: frithguild
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:48:40 PM PDT
by
frithguild
(We have found a tumor beneath the penumbra - is there a surgeon in the Court?)
To: AU72
To: homeguard
Not if they followed the ships...
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:51:29 PM PDT
by
Camel Joe
(liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
To: 1rudeboy
If this ship is the “Moskva” she used to be called the “Slava”. I used to track this beast in the Med back in the mid 80’s. She's been around while.
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:56:31 PM PDT
by
homeguard
(Join or Die)
To: Lurker
The design is said to be marred by large quantities of flammable material and poor damage-control capabilities.
Moskva (ex-Slava)
The Moskva (ex-Slava), which had been in refit at the Nikolayev yard since December 1990, remained undelivered to the Russian Black Sea Fleet through the end of the millenium. No projected date for completion of this much-delayed work was known. The Moskva was finally returned to service in April 2000, replacing the Admiral Golokov as the flagship of the Black Sea fleet. The “Moskva” was finally re-commissioned with hull number “121” after its overhaul in 2000.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/1164.htm
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posted on
08/27/2008 12:56:44 PM PDT
by
frithguild
(Can I drill your head?)
To: homeguard
Its (bosporus straits)is only 100 foot deep in some spots and heavily populated
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posted on
08/27/2008 1:05:07 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of the Masses Could Be Farts)
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