[Coyoteman]

One needs to discount all Science, reason, and measurement if they wish to make the Sun small enough to circle the Earth.

And to overturn the Enlightenment as well.

(And these folks claim they're not anti-science!)

[allmendream]

They are not anti-Science so long as Science knows its “place” as subservient to their Biblical interpretations of Geocentricism, a young Earth, fixed biological “kinds”, etc, etc. Any Scientist, no matter how personally religious, is “anti-God” if they let the data stand and don't massage it to fit into a six thousand year old and degrading box.