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To: GourmetDan
Don't know how to google 'geocentrism' and start reading? What?

No need to be curt. As I stated , either model works, it is all relative to your point of view. I was hoping for links you found that were articulate, intelligent and convincing treatises on geocentrism. Thanks for the helpful tip on Google.

In your opinion, geocentrism is NOT PLAINLY taught (even though the Bible was clearly understood as geocentric until Galileo's time) yet the 7-day creation week is PLAINLY taught?

I believe the Bible is inspired, and inerrant in it's original manuscripts, and what we hold today is 99.9% the same as what was written. I'm not sure that the Bible was asserted to prove geocentrism, just that the model fit the scripture. The sun does rise and set, as we all know, from our perspective on earth. For all intents and purposes, everything revolves around the earth, since this is our home, our point of reference. I have seen 3 scripture references (1 Chron 16:30, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10) that paraphrased state '...cannot be moved.' This could be interpreted to mean something different other than the earth is motionless in space.

The 7 day creation account, as 6 literal creation days and 1 day of rest, is firmly established, and has dramtically more scriptual support. To try to reinterpret it requires omitting, obfuscating, and allegorizing the plain intention of the written word. Also, it is crucial to our understanding of God, man, original sin, death, decay, etc.

249 posted on 08/27/2008 8:59:11 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: jimmyray
"I believe the Bible is inspired, and inerrant in it's original manuscripts, and what we hold today is 99.9% the same as what was written."

You might reconsider that position. It gives 'early' copies of manuscripts more weight when they may not be accurate, just early. The NIV particularly suffers from this position.

You should investigate the work of Ivan Panin, who found numerical patterns in the Received Hebrew and Westcott and Hort texts that are not in other textual collections. The guy was an agnostic, studying the Gospel of John in the original Greek when he had his revelation. Became a Christian as a result. Again, Google works well.

It is the presence of the numeric pattern that indicates that you have the inspired version, not whether the text you are using is the 'earliest' known.

What is 'original' is unknowable. Basically an unfalsifiable position. No different than when the evos do it.

255 posted on 08/27/2008 10:45:26 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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