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To: GourmetDan
Do you deny that the orbital acceleration of the Earth around the Sun is an observation of the effect of this Earth Sun gravitational force that ALSO fits the calculated value?

Are you denying Newtonian gravitational attraction now? Saying that it has not been observed only calculated?

246 posted on 08/27/2008 8:47:40 AM PDT by allmendream (If "the New Yorker" makes a joke, and liberals don't get it, is it still funny?)
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To: allmendream
"Do you deny that the orbital acceleration of the Earth around the Sun is an observation of the effect of this Earth Sun gravitational force that ALSO fits the calculated value? Are you denying Newtonian gravitational attraction now? Saying that it has not been observed only calculated?"

Do you know how many assumptions are built into those calculated values? The theory has formulas, the formulas have factors, the values of the factors are assumed so that the formulas fit the theory fit the observations.

When those values don't work out, 'dark matter' is invoked or 'large iron cores' or Saturn being 'lighter than water' as necessary.

Try this. Assume that Saturn has the same density as Mercury and see if your gravitational calculations 'work'. They don't. The values are forced into the formula into the theory to fit the observations.

Not that you understand any of this...

250 posted on 08/27/2008 9:04:31 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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