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To: GodGunsGuts

Plugging Bible passages into Einstein’s GR theory still doesn’t explain the fact we are seeing somewhat distant galaxies(< 100 million lightyears) without deformation due to gravitational time dilation. We are seeing a perfect image with starlight from the far side of the galaxy that had to have traveled upwards of 50,000 thousand years to match with the starlight from the closer side before it entered the “magical” gravitational time dilation field between galaxies.

So in order for your and you esteemed scientists theories to hold, a couple of these things have to happen -

1) This “magical” gravitational time dilation can’t actually alter the path of light, only accelerate it. Which would be in direct opposition to the example I pointed out earlier - Einstein Crosses - http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/E/Einstein_Cross.html

2) These “magical” gravitational time dilation field must also exist in smaller scales to allow the light of far ends and close ends of galaxies to mingle into one image of the galaxy that we can see from Earth. Again, without, you know, gravitational influencing the light as we see in the TRUE example of gravity’s influence on light as shown in those pesky Einstein Crosses.

3) God created the universe with the light already 99.99999999999+% the way to Earth.

#3 is right out when it comes to a scientific explanation, as that is based on pure faith that God is intentionally tricking us by doing that and then giving us the brainpower to begin to understand the principles of the Universe around us.

So please give me examples of #1 & #2 and why gravity sometimes shows it’s effects upon light, and other times it does not. I’m sure it has something to do with light being both a wave and a particle, and only you get to pick and choose when it gets influenced on only one aspect versus the other.


140 posted on 08/26/2008 10:51:58 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: SengirV
based on pure faith that God is intentionally tricking us by doing that and then giving us the brainpower to begin to understand the principles of the Universe around us.

As opposed to believing that everything in the universe came from nothing, that space and matter were results of a 'big bang', and that all of the order and beauty we observe came about as the result of an explosion. Not to mention that life spontaneously arose with the ability to consume and convert food into energy, as well as copy and follow the DNA that spontaneously generated simultaneously, and then figured out how to reproduce itself.

Faith indeed!!!

141 posted on 08/26/2008 11:41:39 AM PDT by jimmyray
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To: SengirV; GodGunsGuts
"So in order for your and you esteemed scientists theories to hold, a couple of these things have to happen -"

So, in order for your and you esteemed scientists theories [sic] to hold, you must assume that the speed of light has been unchanged since the origin of the universe.

Never heard of the 'horizon problem'?

142 posted on 08/26/2008 12:26:29 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: SengirV; GourmetDan; tpanther; jimmyray; MrB; metmom

You’re assuming that the massive gravitational time dilation that occured during creation week still exists today. According to Humphreys’ White Hole (Creation) Cosmolgy, this would no longer be so. Time would have nearly stood still for earth during creation week, whereas billions of years would have gone by at the outer edges of the universe (which were much closer to earth at the time, because the universe was much smaller), giving plenty of time for starlight to reach the earth in time for day six of creation week.

For a quick overview, you might want to consult the following:

http://creationwiki.org/White_hole_cosmology


156 posted on 08/26/2008 3:33:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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