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To: wintertime
It is impossible to have a religiously neutral education. If you do not believe this then I challenge you to describe a school that is religiously neutral.

I'll challenge you to show me a person who didn't learn anything except what they were taught in school. All you've done is define religious indoctrination as an integral part of education. It's impossible for you to have a religiously neutral education because you simply won't allow it.

387 posted on 08/29/2008 2:40:38 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I'll challenge you to show me a person who didn't learn anything except what they were taught in school. All you've done is define religious indoctrination as an integral part of education. It's impossible for you to have a religiously neutral education because you simply won't allow it.
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It is axiomatic. A religiously neutral education is impossible.

My allowing it or not allowing can not be applied to this axiom. It would be like me wishing that the tooth fairy would come tonight.

By the way if you think a religiously neutral education is possible, please describe one for us.

Please include:

*What days will school events be scheduled so that all students have an equal opportunity to participate and that no godless or God believing student is favored or disfavored? Friday evening? Saturday? Sunday?

*Is the school co-ed or single sex?

*Will the school allow other children to tempt some children with highly fashionable clothing that is proscribed by their religion. Will the girls wear skirts or slacks? Will the boys have short hair or long, and will their faces be shaved or will they wear beards?

*Does the curriculum have a godless or God-centered worldview?

*Which foods will be allowed or disallowed. Will the teachers and other students be permitted to tempt children to eat delicious foods proscribed by their religion?

*Will music and dancing be completely proscribed or allowed. Will some students be allowed to tempt other students with music and dance that is forbidden by their church leaders. What religious music will be allowed or disallowed? Which religious music will be studied in depth, merely mentioned, or completely ignored?

* Will art be permitted or forbidden? What topics will be allowed or disallowed?

*Which theater productions will be allowed, disallowed, or merely mentioned?

Thoughtful readers will quickly realized that many of these issues can only be decided one way or another. No matter which decision the government makes regarding these matters in its compulsory schools, the government will be establishing the religious worldview of some students and trashing that of others.

389 posted on 08/29/2008 2:49:42 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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