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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; wintertime

Considering that the vast majority of this nation is Christian in belief and that time and again, most people have said that they would not object to Christianity being present in the schools, there’s no reason for the vociferous minority of God haters to force any mention of God out of the public school system.

If I lived in a country where the majority religion was not the one I practiced, I would not expect them, nor demand of them, to rearrange their culture and society for me. It would be incredibly selfish and immature to do so, as it is of the atheists here. I would consider that part of living in that country. If I sent my kids to those schools, I would expect them to hear about that religion. If I didn’t want them to, I would find somewhere else to go.

Likewise, there’s nothing from stopping the minority atheists who object to hearing about God in school from starting their own atheist God-free schools. They can send their kids there at their own expense, the same as the option that is constantly being offered to Christians.

Atheists can teach their own children that there is no God on their own time outside of school. We don’t need to have the school teaching it. That’s the parents responsibility to teach their beliefs to their children.

They can take the same scrap that’s thrown at Christians. If it’s good enough for Christians, it’s good enough for atheists.


307 posted on 08/27/2008 5:20:43 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Considering that the vast majority of this nation is Christian in belief and that time and again, most people have said that they would not object to Christianity being present in the schools, there’s no reason for the vociferous minority of God haters to force any mention of God out of the public school system.

But the Constitution is not supposed to be interpreted through opinion polls. Whether or not it is Constitutional to use public resources to advance religion is not an issue that is decided at the ballot box (unless through a Constitutional amendment).

If I lived in a country where the majority religion was not the one I practiced, I would not expect them, nor demand of them, to rearrange their culture and society for me.

It depends on the country. In a Constitutional republic like ours, cultural and societal practices have to give way to the Constitution. Segregation, for example, was something that was the cultural, societal and religious norm in many parts of this country. But it was an unconstitutional practice, regardless.

Atheists can teach their own children that there is no God on their own time outside of school. We don’t need to have the school teaching it. That’s the parents responsibility to teach their beliefs to their children.

That's an incredibly inconsistent position on your part- you're basically arguing that it is proper for the schools to teach the religious views of whoever is the majority in a given community. Your only objection seems to be that you do not like the religious views that you believe are currently being taught in schools.

Your position misses the point of the 1st Amendment- it is unconstitutional to use public money and resources to teach ANY religious view- whether theistic or atheistic.

316 posted on 08/27/2008 7:43:34 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: metmom
If I lived in a country where the majority religion was not the one I practiced, I would not expect them, nor demand of them, to rearrange their culture and society for me.

My Jewish friends, whose families have been here about as long as mine have, would prefer not to think they live in "their" culture and society--they love this country and think they live in "our" culture and society. I think it would be incredibly rude to force Christian practices on them. Fortunately, the courts agree with me (well, maybe not because it's "rude," but for other reasons).

Non-Christian /= atheist, you know.

319 posted on 08/27/2008 8:40:25 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: metmom
As you know, I propose that we begin the process of privatizing universal education. Since education can never be religiously neutral, getting government out of the education business would get government out of the business of establishing either a god-less or God-centered worldview.

However...Your post very clearly illustrates how atheists or those advocating a god-less worldview use the government to finance and impose their worldview on Christians.

What if the tables were turned and Christians did to them what is done by the “godless” to Christian children in the government schools? They wouldn't be happy about it. ( I am not advocating that though) I **am** pushing for complete separation of school and state.

334 posted on 08/27/2008 11:33:04 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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