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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; metmom
What it comes down to is that you think a God-free statement is the same as an anti-God statement.
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Government sponsored “god-free” schools are **not** religiously neutral.

_ These schools teach children that their religious beliefs, scriptures, and teaching of their church leaders, can, should, and **must** be ignored when evaluating every aspect of human knowledge and culture covered in the curriculum. This is government establishment of the religious belief of those who hold a “god-free” worldview, and active government destruction of the religious beliefs and traditions of those who do believe in God. )

_ It teaches children to have disrespect and disregard for their parents and for the the traditions taught in the home. ( This is hardly a religiously neutral act on the part of the government)

Sometimes I think that people who claim to be “god-free” are deliberately lying when they say innocently claim that atheistic government schools are merely god-free and not anti-God. There are times that I think they are holding their fingers in their ears like little children and yelling “la, la, la,” in an effort to drown out the complaints of those who are religious.

But....It appears from your post that, yes indeed, you simply can not understand that “god-free” is not religiously neutral. Hopefully, we can succeed in helping you understand that it is **impossible** for the education of children to be religiously neutral. “God-free” is not religiously neutral in content or consequences, neither is God-centered.

There really is only one solution: Begin the process of getting government **out** of the education business. Let parents choose a school that upholds their religious worldview. You can choose a godless religious worldview for your son, and those who believe in God can choose schools that best uphold the traditions taught in their homes.

304 posted on 08/27/2008 12:29:25 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: wintertime
But....It appears from your post that, yes indeed, you simply can not understand that “god-free” is not religiously neutral.

The *God free* mentality is not religiously neutral. It merely does not favor one theistic religion over another. It treats them all with the same contempt.

What it does do is favor the religion of secular humanism over the others.

308 posted on 08/27/2008 5:23:29 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: wintertime
But....It appears from your post that, yes indeed, you simply can not understand that “god-free” is not religiously neutral.

You constantly equate religion-neutral to atheistic. The two are different- a school taking a religion-neutral position means it does not discuss religion during school-hours. This is the only proper and Constitutional approach. An atheistic approach would mean the school actively taking the position that no gods exist, which would be unconstitutional.

317 posted on 08/27/2008 8:03:34 AM PDT by Citizen Blade ("Please... I go through everyone's trash." The Question)
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To: wintertime
It appears from your post that, yes indeed, you simply can not understand that “god-free” is not religiously neutral.

I know, you keep saying that. But not only does it not make logical sense, it doesn't work that way in practice. I know people who went to religious schools who went on to live a "God-free" life, and I know people who went to public schools who are devout Christians. My son has not been taught to ignore his religious beliefs or to disrespect me. It just doesn't happen. (Of course "it happens" from time to time--everything does. But it's not an integral part of a secular education.)

318 posted on 08/27/2008 8:33:55 AM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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