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CNN: Biden is the VP pick

Posted on 08/22/2008 9:45:25 PM PDT by hole_n_one

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To: gswilder
One person on DU said they took vacation today so they could stay home and wait by their phone for that text.

They took a whole day off to read a 5 sec. text msg.? Well, doesn't that just say it all.

601 posted on 08/23/2008 4:08:32 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: kinsman redeemer
Taken from FamousPlagiarists.com

Joe Biden’s history of plagiarism and “stressless scholarship” gave plenty of ammo to his enemies, one of them choosing to circulate a so-called “attack video” to demonstrate Biden’s outright plagiarism of a British politician’s speech. But this appropriation from Neal Kinnock was not the first occurrence of unacknowledged lifting by the senator from Delaware.

In 1965 Biden plagiarized while writing a paper as a student at the Syracuse University Law School in a legal methods course which he failed because of that copied paper. Such “stressless scholarship” as it is euphemistically called has become all too common in the modern Internet era with countless cheatsites and “research services” offering to sell students papers on topics from A to Z.

Biden’s case demonstrates that student plagiarism is nothing new. Only the methods of cheating have changed. Today, cheating has gone digital with the proliferation of Internet based paper filing and distributions systems, but the principles—or lack thereof—are the same. And as the Biden case illustrates, getting caught for such academic dishonesty may have serious ramifications for one’s political career. Joe Biden’s failed bid for the Democratic ticket is a case in point.

“Stressless scholarship” may seem like a pretty good idea at the time that many students make that decision to ‘crib’, copy, or dowload a paper off the Internet, but in Biden’s case the plagiarism of his student days came back to haunt his bid for the democratic presidential nomination like a spectre from his past.

In an article entitled “Biden’s Belly Flop”, Newsweek printed Joe Biden’s yearbook picture from his college days and a copy of his law school transcripts with the big “F” in his transcripts circled. Biden was given a chance to repeat his legal methods course, and above the “F” his retake grade of 80% was eventually penciled in. Being a repeat offender when it came to plagiarism made things much, much worse for Biden than they might have been otherwise in his failed bid for the Democratic presidential ticket in 1987.

Senator Biden’s plagiarism of a speech by British Labor Party leader Neal Kinnock took place at a campaign stump at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. In closing his speech, Biden took Kinnock’s ideas and language as if they were his very own inspired thoughts, prefacing Kinnock’s ideas with the phrase “I started thinking as I was coming over here . . . “. Little did Biden suspect that video footage of this speech would be spliced together with footage of Kinnock’s speech in an “attack video” which would be distributed by members of the Dukakis campaign.

Making the headline news in the New York Times, and the evening news on TV, the video was a stab in the back for Biden by his democratic competitor, and although he insisted that “I’m in this race to stay. I’m in this race to win,” the resulting publicity surrounding his unacknowledged use of Neal Kinnock’s speech was what eventually forced him out of the race. Name recognition was no longer a problem for Biden, but not the kind of name recognition which would assist his campaign for the democratic presidential nomination. His name was now a byword for plagiarism. His situation became a classic example of plagiarism for high school teachers and college instructors across the nation lecturing on the evils of unacknowledged source use.

Biden initially denied any wrongdoing, claiming that this was just an inadvertent lack of acknowledgement. Yet there were other instances of rhetorical borrowing from speeches made by Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey. And the fact that Biden had given other speeches using the Kinnock passages without acknowledgment suggested that the lifting was more than just an inadvertent oversight.

As with Al Gore’s case, the perception existed in the public mind that Biden just wasn’t the real thing. He wasn’t authentic, didn’t have thoughts and ideas of his own, and was a malleable piece of clay being molded by his handlers to suit the political whims and fancies which they thought would appeal to voters. A Time magazine article by Walter Shapairo was pretty much on the money in offering the speculation that “In the end, Biden may be remembered as the candidate who truly offered the voters an echo and not a choice.”

William Safire, former speechwriter for Richard Nixon, gloated in the New York Times over Biden’s demise, quoting a supposedly “embittered Democrat” who said, “I’m going back to Gary Hart . . . At least he didn’t steal that girl from some far-lefty in England.” And he concluded his op-ed column with a swipe at Biden’s ability to think apart from his speechwriter: “So my advice to candidates like Joe Biden is this: Do justly, love perorations and walk humbly with thy speechwriter. (I forget where I got that, but it has a nice ring to it.) ”

With all the press he was receiving over his Neal Kinnock plagiarism courtesy of the Dukakis “attack videos”, Biden was quickly becoming the “most famous political plagiarist of our time”, as Thomas Mallon describes the unfortunate Delaware senator. It was just a matter of time before Biden would have to bow out of the democratic primary.

Biden himself thought that all the attention to his rhetorical borrowing was “frankly ludicrous”, and the media analysts generally agreed, stating that is was “hardly a capital offense”, but as William Safire put it, “times have changed; you can’t get away with borrowing anything these days – not even an oratorical technique, much less a phrase or paragraph – unless you are willing to give the attribution.” If Gore’s loss of the presidency to George W. Bush in 2000 was more indirectly related to plagiarism, it is evident that Biden’s case is without question a direct result of his unacknowledged use of Kinnock’s speech as if it were his very own. This instance of plagiarism and the public exposure it received cut short the presidential aspirations of an otherwise gifted orator and statesman.

602 posted on 08/23/2008 4:08:41 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: hole_n_one
After all the hype, it's Smugs and Plugs.

This confirms, to me, that the Obama Campaign is essentially rudderless. The Biden pick deals with the crisis-of-the-day of about five days ago, where Smugs was revealed to be ridiculously unqualified to deal with the Georgia crisis. So our Democrat Dutchboys have stuck their fingers in that hole in the dike, and now the Rezko hole has opened up, and Plugs does absolutely nothing for Smugs on that one.

Nor will he be able to help on the next 52 inadequacies to come down the pike. Smugs' only winning strategy was to re-start the hype machine and ride to victory as the candidate of Hope-n-Change. But Plugs is going to smother that effort at every turn, because he is the pick of Nastiness-n-Ossification. Plugs' presence on the ticket will simultaneously remind of everything we don't like about Smugs and everything we find inadequate about him.

A true train-wreck of a pick, and indicative of Smugs' underlying incompetency.

603 posted on 08/23/2008 4:09:48 AM PDT by gridlock (John McCain wants you to know... It's OK to vote against Barack Obama!)
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To: hole_n_one
Excellent!


604 posted on 08/23/2008 4:10:14 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Indeed.


605 posted on 08/23/2008 4:10:51 AM PDT by zendari
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To: All

Click here to get one... (I made them myself! LOL)

606 posted on 08/23/2008 4:12:28 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (LR's BLOG: http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Yep. OB in ‘08. Obama bin Biden it is.
(Very funny slogan I first heard from freeper Joe 6-pack on Tuesday.)
Not Clinton. There is a God.


607 posted on 08/23/2008 4:14:49 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (0 is for Old White Guy, B is for Babe in the Woods. OB: It's flushable.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Biden was dumb choice. Why choose a guy who couldn’t get more than 5% of the vote in a national election? Stupid stupid stupid. McCain is going to win this thing big.


608 posted on 08/23/2008 4:18:35 AM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: The_Victor

Excellent indeed. “Wet behind the ears” picks “Plugs at the hairline.”


609 posted on 08/23/2008 4:21:06 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (0 is for Old White Guy, B is for Babe in the Woods. OB: It's flushable.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Those Obama folks are really media suave. Releasing it at 3 in the morning.

Not one of the big east newspapers, (NY Post,NY Daily News,Boston Globe,NYT,Washington Post), have it on their front page.

610 posted on 08/23/2008 4:22:58 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: mware

I agree, they are not very bright. There’s quite a bit of concern at DU central over the pick too. It’s pretty funny.


611 posted on 08/23/2008 4:27:19 AM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: lainie
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612 posted on 08/23/2008 4:48:26 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD (Airlines can take their $15-per-checked-bag surcharge and shove it!)
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To: machogirl

The lawsuit, no. He’s teflon, as proved by the dems RBC’s show trial and info put out this year and a half the media ignored, twisted, lied about... any one of which would have sunk an elephant, much less an unknown

Hill saves the day?

I thought that myself re: convention vote. He really put in a martyr application for Arkancide if she’s not in on it in some fashion. I forgot... he’s good at that too re: Gwaltney (he was the one pushing for Hill on the ballot, put in the documentation for the vote the day before he was shot and Tubbs was loyal to the end, RIP to both of them). It’s more like Putincide, if we add the muslim in the room with the pound of cyanide in Denver, the mailed powder envelopes, the dropping out of bloggers and censorship. Something still tells me this wouldn’t have come about without her knowing about it... I know she had to have info on him, yet she didn’t put it out... and vice versa. Or at least I thought she let him take the scrutiny until the last minute, then a coup.

re: text message

I guess the left knows the O likes to play games (from his numberous flip flops, changing/ignoring of previous election rules, illegal polling practices, acting if laws don’t apply to him), that’s also a reason they want to wait for the text.

O has the type of team (face it, he has to be putting out under the table cash on top of unreported and record-breaking dough on the streets, what he said he wouldn’t do, just words). If the RNC and GOP weren’t busy watering down the party, we could cover each state like McCarthy and watch their moves on felons, illegal and dead votes, unlawful polling and election fundraising incidents as well as his whole life being lit up.

Of course our reps (except for the brave drill bunch in the house), and senators have done nothing (I would hope because of some Mc’s positions and the hell they see coming, but nah, they weren’t motivated by any of the candidates from the beginning really). We see Hagel being credited as giving Biden to him and Shays as well as others praising the O.

Blog Talk Radio will be hopping all weekend.


613 posted on 08/23/2008 4:54:44 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Chia-Farengi '08 - Make your last vote count.)
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To: sofaman

FYI, Rove predicted Biden and Romney in June on FNS with Wallace (6/15). He said the Romney was on hold re: gender and if Hill, Palin would be great.


614 posted on 08/23/2008 5:07:31 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Chia-Farengi '08 - Make your last vote count.)
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To: hole_n_one

CNN is desperately struggling to spin the choice of Biden as a possible winner for the one, it’s hillarious to watch.


615 posted on 08/23/2008 5:18:11 AM PDT by moose2004 (Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill, Drill And Then Drill Some More)
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To: conservativefromGa

re: so much for text messages

Yeah, but he has the info... and trust me, he’ll text for money or something else.


616 posted on 08/23/2008 5:31:07 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Chia-Farengi '08 - Make your last vote count.)
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To: F15Eagle

The clue was professional campaign vids re: O/B already up at youtube last week. Also the flip re: Biden going to Georgia, coming back to admit Russia was at fault and the atrocities there... followed by O using a lot of word for word for his flip after. (Re WaPo story on the 18th I think).

But I still thought it would be Hill.


617 posted on 08/23/2008 5:36:12 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Chia-Farengi '08 - Make your last vote count.)
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To: hole_n_one
And all this time I thought B.O. was about CHANGE.

This is gonna CHANGE things alright!

618 posted on 08/23/2008 5:36:55 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Rush got his wish...



RUSH: Please, Please Let It Be Joe Biden
We dip into our mountain of archival Biden audio.

620 posted on 08/23/2008 5:43:41 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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